From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=3.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B7DC43381 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43C3A21479 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1730036AbfBSXmV (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:42:21 -0500 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:35740 "EHLO mx1.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1726405AbfBSXmU (ORCPT ); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 18:42:20 -0500 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx08.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.23]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC39E81F12; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from warthog.procyon.org.uk (ovpn-121-129.rdu2.redhat.com [10.10.121.129]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B09E19C57; Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Organization: Red Hat UK Ltd. Registered Address: Red Hat UK Ltd, Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SI4 1TE, United Kingdom. Registered in England and Wales under Company Registration No. 3798903 From: David Howells In-Reply-To: <8736ojybw7.fsf@xmission.com> References: <8736ojybw7.fsf@xmission.com> <155024683432.21651.14153938339749694146.stgit@warthog.procyon.org.uk> To: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman) Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com, sfrench@samba.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, rgb@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linux Containers , linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/27] Containers and using authenticated filesystems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <22054.1550619729.1@warthog.procyon.org.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:42:09 +0000 Message-ID: <22055.1550619729@warthog.procyon.org.uk> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 on 10.5.11.23 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.25]); Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:42:20 +0000 (UTC) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Eric W. Biederman wrote: > So you missed the main mailing lists for discussion of this kind of > thing Yeah, sorry about that. I was primarily aiming it at Trond and Steve as I'd like to consider how to go about interpolating request_key() into NFS and CIFS so that they can make use of the key-related facilities that this makes available with AFS. And I was in a bit tight for time to mail it out before having to go out. I know, excuses... ;-) > and the maintainer. That would be me. I maintain keyrings. No one is listed in MAINTAINERS as owning namespaces. If you feel that should be you, please add a record. > Looking at your description you are introducing a container id. Yes. For audit logging, which was why I cc'd Richard. > You don't descibe which namespace your contianer id lives in. It doesn't. Not everything has to have a namespace. As you yourself pointed out, it should be globally unique, in which case the world is the namespace, maybe even the universe;-). > Without the container id living in a container this breaks > nested containers and process migration aka CRIU. As long as IDs are globally unique, why should break container migration? Having a kernel container object might even make CRIU easier. And what does "Without the container id living in a container" mean anyway? I have IDs attached to containers. A container can see the IDs of its child containers. There should be no problem with nesting. David