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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
Cc: Yury Norov <ynorov@caviumnetworks.com>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/18] 32-bit ABI: introduce ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T config option
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 00:22:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22426495.JIjM4XpfGo@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d5ef8e8-38f1-92fe-b584-242cc2924558@mellanox.com>

On Monday, October 24, 2016 12:30:47 PM CEST Chris Metcalf wrote:
> On 10/21/2016 4:33 PM, Yury Norov wrote:
> > All new 32-bit architectures should have 64-bit off_t type, but existing
> > architectures has 32-bit ones.
> >
> > [...]
> > For syscalls sys_openat() and sys_open_by_handle_at() force_o_largefile()
> > is called, to set O_LARGEFILE flag, and this is the only difference
> > comparing to compat versions. All compat ABIs are already turned to use
> > 64-bit off_t, except tile. So, compat versions for this syscalls are not
> > needed anymore. Tile is handled explicitly.
> >
> > [...]
> > --- a/arch/tile/kernel/compat.c
> > +++ b/arch/tile/kernel/compat.c
> > @@ -103,6 +103,9 @@ COMPAT_SYSCALL_DEFINE5(llseek, unsigned int, fd, unsigned int, offset_high,
> >   #define compat_sys_readahead sys32_readahead
> >   #define sys_llseek compat_sys_llseek
> >   
> > +#define sys_openat             compat_sys_openat
> > +#define sys_open_by_handle_at  compat_sys_open_by_handle_at
> > +
> >   /* Call the assembly trampolines where necessary. */
> >   #define compat_sys_rt_sigreturn _compat_sys_rt_sigreturn
> >   #define sys_clone _sys_clone
> 
> This patch accomplishes two goals that could be completely separated.
> It's confusing to have them mixed in the same patch without any
> discussion of why they are in the same patch.
> 
> First, you want to modify the default <asm/unistd.h> behavior for
> compat syscalls so that the default is sys_openat (etc) rather than
> the existing compat_sys_openat, and then use that new behavior for
> arm64 ILP32.  This lets you force O_LARGEFILE for arm64 ILP32 to
> support having a 64-bit off_t at all times.  To do that, you fix the
> asm-generic header, and then make tile have a special override.
> This seems reasonable enough.
> 
> Second, you introduce ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T basically as a synonym for
> "BITS_PER_WORD == 32", so that new 32-bit architectures can choose not
> to enable it.  This is fine in the abstract, but I'm a bit troubled by
> the fact that you are not actually introducing a new 32-bit
> architecture here (just a new 32-bit mode for the arm 64-bit kernel).
> Shouldn't this part of the change wait until someone actually has a
> new 32-bit kernel to drive this forward?

I asked for this specifically because we identified the problem
during the review of the aarch64 ilp32 code, and it might not
be noticed in the next architecture submission.

The most important aspect from my perspective is that the new
ilp32 ABI on aarch64 behaves the same way that any native 32-bit
architecture does, and when we change the default, it should
be done for both compat mode and native mode at the same time.

> If you want to push forward the ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T change in the absence
> of an architecture that supports it, I would think it would be a lot
> less confusing to have these two in separate patches, and make it
> clear that the ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T change is just laying groundwork
> for some hypothetical future architecture.
> 
> The existing commit language itself is also confusing. You write "All
> compat ABIs are already turned to use 64-bit off_t, except tile."
> First, I'm not sure what you mean by "turned" here.  And, tile is just
> one of many compat ABIs that allow O_LARGEFILE not to be part of the
> open call: see arm64's AArch32 ABI, MIPS o32, s390 31-bit emulation,
> sparc64's 32-bit mode, and of course x86's 32-bit compat mode.
> Presumably your point here is that tile is the only pre-existing
> architecture that #includes <asm/unistd.h> to create its compat
> syscall table, and so I think "all except tile" here is particularly
> confusing, since there are no architectures except tile that use the
> __SYSCALL_COMPAT functionality in the current tree.

Agreed, this could be made clearer, and splitting the patch up
in two also seems reasonable, though I didn't see it as important.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-24 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-21 20:32 [RFC3 nowrap: PATCH v7 00/18] ILP32 for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 01/18] 32-bit ABI: introduce ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T config option Yury Norov
2016-10-24 16:30   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-10-24 22:22     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-10-27  9:29       ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 02/18] arm64: ilp32: add documentation on the ILP32 ABI for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-10-24 16:36   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-10-27  9:40     ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 03/18] arm64: rename COMPAT to AARCH32_EL0 in Kconfig Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 04/18] arm64: ensure the kernel is compiled for LP64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 05/18] arm64:uapi: set __BITS_PER_LONG correctly for ILP32 and LP64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 06/18] thread: move thread bits accessors to separated file Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 07/18] arm64: introduce is_a32_task and is_a32_thread (for AArch32 compat) Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 08/18] arm64: ilp32: add is_ilp32_compat_{task,thread} and TIF_32BIT_AARCH64 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 09/18] arm64: introduce binfmt_elf32.c Yury Norov
2016-12-05 15:10   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-14  9:39     ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 10/18] arm64: ilp32: introduce binfmt_ilp32.c Yury Norov
2016-12-05 15:38   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-21 18:56     ` Yury Norov
2017-01-06 14:48       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 11/18] arm64: ilp32: share aarch32 syscall handlers Yury Norov
2016-12-05 17:12   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-06  7:32     ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 12/18] arm64: ilp32: add sys_ilp32.c and a separate table (in entry.S) to use it Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 13/18] arm64: signal: share lp64 signal routines to ilp32 Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 14/18] arm64: signal32: move ilp32 and aarch32 common code to separated file Yury Norov
2016-12-05 16:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-06  9:36     ` Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 15/18] arm64: ilp32: introduce ilp32-specific handlers for sigframe and ucontext Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 16/18] arm64: ptrace: handle ptrace_request differently for aarch32 and ilp32 Yury Norov
2016-12-05 16:34   ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-06  6:25     ` Yury Norov
2016-12-06  6:30       ` Yury Norov
2016-12-07 16:59       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-07 20:40         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-08 13:12           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-05 20:40           ` Yury Norov
2017-01-06 14:36             ` Catalin Marinas
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 17/18] arm64:ilp32: add vdso-ilp32 and use for signal return Yury Norov
2016-10-21 20:33 ` [PATCH 18/18] arm64:ilp32: add ARM64_ILP32 to Kconfig Yury Norov
2016-10-28 12:46 ` ILP32 for ARM64 - testing with lmbench Yury Norov
2016-11-17  3:28   ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-11-17  5:02     ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-17  7:48       ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 10:16         ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 14:13           ` Catalin Marinas
2016-12-11 12:08             ` Yury Norov
2016-11-07  8:23 ` ILP32 for ARM64: testing with glibc testsuite Yury Norov
2016-11-09  9:56   ` Yury Norov
2016-11-16 11:22     ` Maxim Kuvyrkov
2016-11-17 15:50       ` Catalin Marinas
2016-11-17 21:45       ` Steve Ellcey
2016-12-05  9:58         ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-05 10:07           ` Andreas Schwab
2016-12-05 10:24             ` Zhangjian (Bamvor)
2016-12-06  5:29               ` Yury Norov
2016-12-05 19:33             ` Steve Ellcey
2016-12-06  8:31               ` Andreas Schwab
2016-11-30  5:02 ` [RFC3 nowrap: PATCH v7 00/18] ILP32 for ARM64 Yury Norov
2016-11-30  6:52   ` Adam Borowski
2016-12-18  7:08 ` Yury Norov
2017-01-06 14:47   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-01-09  8:30     ` Yury Norov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-08-17 11:46 [RFC2 " Yury Norov
2016-08-17 11:46 ` [PATCH 01/18] 32-bit ABI: introduce ARCH_32BIT_OFF_T config option Yury Norov

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