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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "liviu.dudau@arm.com" <liviu.dudau@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V5 3/3] ARM64 LPC: LPC driver implementation on Hip06
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:17:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2281986.miqFuFkAbO@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161114112625.GO10219@e106497-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Monday, November 14, 2016 11:26:25 AM CET liviu.dudau@arm.com wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 08:26:42AM +0000, Gabriele Paoloni wrote:
> > > Nope, that is not what it means. It means that PCI devices can see I/O
> > > addresses
> > > on the bus that start from 0. There never was any usage for non-PCI
> > > controllers
> > 
> > So I am a bit confused...
> > From http://www.firmware.org/1275/bindings/isa/isa0_4d.ps
> > It seems that ISA buses operate on cpu I/O address range [0, 0xFFF].
> > I thought that was the reason why for most architectures we have
> > PCIBIOS_MIN_IO equal to 0x1000 (so I thought that ISA controllers
> > usually use [0, PCIBIOS_MIN_IO - 1] )
> 
> First of all, cpu I/O addresses is an x86-ism. ARM architectures and others
>  have no separate address space for I/O, it is all merged into one unified
> address space. So, on arm/arm64 for example, PCIBIOS_MIN_IO = 0 could mean
> that we don't care about ISA I/O because the platform does not support having
> an ISA bus (e.g.).

I think to be more specific, PCIBIOS_MIN_IO=0 would indicate that you cannot
have a PCI-to-ISA or PCI-to-LPC bridge in any PCI domain. This is different
from having an LPC master outside of PCI, as that lives in its own domain
and has a separately addressable I/O space.

> > As said before this series forbid IO tokens to be in [0, PCIBIOS_MIN_IO)
> > to allow special ISA controllers to use that range with special
> > accessors.
> > Having a variable threshold would make life much more difficult
> > as there would be a probe dependency between the PCI controller and
> > the special ISA one (PCI to wait for the special ISA device to be
> > probed and set the right threshold value from DT or ACPI table).
> > 
> > Instead using PCIBIOS_MIN_IO is easier and should not impose much
> > constraint as [PCIBIOS_MIN_IO, IO_SPACE_LIMIT] is available to
> > the PCI controller for I/O tokens...
> 
> What I am suggesting is to leave PCIBIOS_MIN_IO alone which still reserves
> space for ISA controller and add a PCIBIOS_MIN_DIRECT_IO that will reserve
> space for your direct address I/O on top of PCIBIOS_MIN_IO.

The PCIBIOS_MIN_DIRECT_IO name still suggests having something related to
PCIBIOS_MIN_IO, but it really isn't. We are talking about multiple
concepts here that are not the same but that are somewhat related:

a) keeping PCI devices from allocating low I/O ports on the PCI bus
   that would conflict with ISA devices behind a bridge of the
   same bus.

b) reserving the low 0x0-0xfff range of the Linux-internal I/O
   space abstraction to a particular LPC or PCI domain to make
   legacy device drivers work that hardcode a particular port
   number.

c) Redirecting inb/outb to call a domain-specific accessor function
   rather than doing the normal MMIO window for an LPC master or
   more generally any arbitrary LPC or PCI domain that has a
   nonstandard I/O space. 
   [side note: actually if we generalized this, we could avoid
    assigning an MMIO range for the I/O space on the pci-mvebu
    driver, and that would help free up some other remapping
    windows]

I think there is no need to change a) here, we have PCIBIOS_MIN_IO
today and even if we don't need it, there is no obvious downside.
I would also argue that we can ignore b) for the discussion of
the HiSilicon LPC driver, we just need to assign some range
of logical addresses to each domain.

That means solving c) is the important problem here, and it
shouldn't be so hard.  We can do this either with a single
special domain as in the v5 patch series, or by generalizing it
so that any I/O space mapping gets looked up through the device
pointer of the bus master.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-18 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-08  3:47 [PATCH V5 0/3] ARM64 LPC: legacy ISA I/O support zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08  3:47 ` [PATCH V5 1/3] ARM64 LPC: Indirect ISA port IO introduced zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08 12:03   ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-08 16:09     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 16:15       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 23:16     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-10  8:33       ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10 11:22       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-10 19:32         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-11 10:07           ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18  9:20             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 11:12               ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18 11:38                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-21 12:58       ` John Garry
2016-11-08 16:12   ` Will Deacon
2016-11-08 16:33     ` John Garry
2016-11-08 16:49       ` Will Deacon
2016-11-08 17:05         ` John Garry
2016-11-08 22:35         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-09 11:29           ` John Garry
2016-11-09 21:33             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-22  8:15   ` Ming Lei
2016-12-23  1:43     ` zhichang.yuan
2016-12-23  7:24       ` Ming Lei
2017-01-06 11:43     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08  3:47 ` [PATCH V5 2/3] ARM64 LPC: Add missing range exception for special ISA zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08  5:17   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08  5:27   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08 11:49   ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-08 16:19     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 17:10       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-09 13:54       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-09 14:51         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 21:38         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-14 11:11           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-11-18  9:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-08 23:12     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-09 11:20       ` Mark Rutland
2016-11-10  7:08         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2016-11-09 11:39   ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-09 16:16     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 16:50       ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-10  6:24         ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10 16:06         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 10:37           ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-08  3:47 ` [PATCH V5 3/3] ARM64 LPC: LPC driver implementation on Hip06 zhichang.yuan
2016-11-08  6:11   ` kbuild test robot
2016-11-08 16:24   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-09 12:10     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-09 21:34       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10  6:40         ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-10  9:12           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10 12:36             ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-18 11:46               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-10 15:36             ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-10 16:07               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-11 10:09                 ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-11 10:48                 ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-11 13:39                 ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 14:45                   ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-11 15:53                     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 18:16                       ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-14  8:26                         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-14 11:26                           ` liviu.dudau
2016-11-18 10:17                             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2016-11-18 12:07                               ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 12:24                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 12:53                                   ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 13:42                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 16:18                                       ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-18 16:34                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-18 17:03                                           ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-23 14:16                                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-23 15:22                                               ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-23 17:07                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-23 23:23                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-24  9:12                                                     ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-24 10:24                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-25  8:46                                                     ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-25 12:03                                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-25 16:27                                                         ` Gabriele Paoloni
2016-11-11 16:54                     ` zhichang.yuan
2016-11-14 11:06         ` One Thousand Gnomes

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