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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: For the problem when using swiotlb
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 12:26:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2310899.ejrSzj6BIr@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141121110609.GC19783@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On Friday 21 November 2014 11:06:10 Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:56:42PM +0000, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Wednesday 19 November 2014 15:46:35 Catalin Marinas wrote:
> > > Going back to original topic, the dma_supported() function on arm64
> > > calls swiotlb_dma_supported() which actually checks whether the swiotlb
> > > bounce buffer is within the dma mask. This transparent bouncing (unlike
> > > arm32 where it needs to be explicit) is not always optimal, though
> > > required for 32-bit only devices on a 64-bit system. The problem is when
> > > the driver is 64-bit capable but forgets to call
> > > dma_set_mask_and_coherent() (that's not the only question I got about
> > > running out of swiotlb buffers).
> > 
> > I think it would be nice to warn once per device that starts using the
> > swiotlb. Really all 32-bit DMA masters should have a proper IOMMU
> > attached.
> 
> It would be nice to have a dev_warn_once().
> 
> I think it makes sense on arm64 to avoid swiotlb bounce buffers for
> coherent allocations altogether. The __dma_alloc_coherent() function
> already checks coherent_dma_mask and sets GFP_DMA accordingly. If we
> have a device that cannot even cope with a 32-bit ZONE_DMA, we should
> just not support DMA at all on it (without an IOMMU). The arm32
> __dma_supported() has a similar check.

If we ever encounter this case, we may have to add a smaller ZONE_DMA
and use ZONE_DMA32 for the normal dma allocations.

> Swiotlb is still required for the streaming DMA since we get bouncing
> for pages allocated outside the driver control (e.g. VFS layer which
> doesn't care about GFP_DMA), hoping a 16M bounce buffer would be enough.
> 
> Ding seems to imply that CMA fixes the problem, which means that the
> issue is indeed coherent allocations.

I wonder what's going on here, since swiotlb_alloc_coherent() actually
tries a regular __get_free_pages(flags, order) first, and when ZONE_DMA
is set here, it just work without using the pool.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-21 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-17 11:56 For the problem when using swiotlb Ding Tianhong
2014-11-17 12:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-17 18:09   ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-19  3:17     ` Ding Tianhong
2014-11-19  8:45       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-19 11:29         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-19 12:48           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-19 15:46             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-19 15:56               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-21 11:06                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-21 11:26                   ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-11-21 11:36                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-21 12:27                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-20  2:57         ` Ding Tianhong
2014-11-20  7:40           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-20  8:34             ` Ding Tianhong
2014-11-20  9:02               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-20  9:21                 ` Ding Tianhong
2014-11-21  9:35             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-21 10:32               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-21 12:48               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-21 16:57                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-21 17:04                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-21 17:51                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-21 18:09                       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-24 20:12                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-11-25 10:58                           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-25 11:29                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-11-25 12:23                               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-27  2:36                                 ` Ding Tianhong

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