From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=3.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_PASS, URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39E8C46475 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [209.132.180.67]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03BE020834 for ; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 11:19:41 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mailbox.org header.i=@mailbox.org header.b="oObn7p3I" DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 03BE020834 Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=none dis=none) header.from=mailbox.org Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1727444AbeJYTv7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:51:59 -0400 Received: from mx1.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.212]:37454 "EHLO mx1.mailbox.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1727256AbeJYTv7 (ORCPT ); Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:51:59 -0400 Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:67c:2050:105:465:1:2:0]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.mailbox.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B2E84BAEB; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:19:36 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=mailbox.org; h= content-type:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:date:date:subject:subject:from:from:received; s= mail20150812; t=1540466375; bh=/n8Za6I7DOREQuWpWOmVFx7fazGHYKF7w 4mX4tZjkOw=; b=oObn7p3I10d4UEZnaYEtr03e4w316fkqa4kwvJ0wPqshC8d/u KdZT64XepXOaACCU+p4cT6uEDM5vMwxrm+G85bByVUL2XMK22v4XOMXhZYDG4hN5 GZlW69BkcF2Jzsgz/Glepjl9p3Vs6b0r42Qz+87T76UA6GuxhkOSnDvVqoHZ7we7 2IfEqVjBINiibjXcoupj/vDD+vsHniQ+7DP4mvg7GPvrb8svZv1O5ufPAR1MFuwf yc/ETW52/221wFPgyz9J+MOKFK4sknkCLoiK8j4dCWC9wNaf2gKGCbAuvZ7/617G E5HA0EgEXhup4yVHOi0+8qUInyuCEPe0T1EMw== X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at heinlein-support.de Received: from smtp2.mailbox.org ([80.241.60.241]) by spamfilter02.heinlein-hosting.de (spamfilter02.heinlein-hosting.de [80.241.56.116]) (amavisd-new, port 10030) with ESMTP id ErS1VCihmAar; Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:19:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Rainer Fiebig To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: NeilBrown , Greg Kroah-Hartman , ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Thomas Gleixner , Olof Johansson , Chris Mason , Mishi Choudhary Subject: Re: Call to Action Re: [PATCH 0/7] Code of Conduct: Fix some wording, and add an interpretation document Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:20:56 +0200 Message-ID: <2341648.lzjnUGKk1z@siriux> In-Reply-To: <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> References: <20181020134908.GA32218@kroah.com> <87y3ar80ac.fsf@notabene.neil.brown.name> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart42791249.HQLrouHPFn"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --nextPart42791249.HQLrouHPFn Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Am Montag, 22. Oktober 2018, 08:20:11 schrieb NeilBrown: > On Sat, Oct 20 2018, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > > Hi all, > >=20 > > As everyone knows by now, we added a new Code of Conduct to the ker= nel > > tree a few weeks ago. >=20 > I wanted to stay detached from all this, but as remaining (publicly) > silent might be seen (publicly) as acquiescing, I hereby declare that= : > I reject, as illegitimate, this Code and the process by > which it is being "developed". >=20 > It is clear from the surrounding discussions that this is well outsid= e our > core competencies. It will be flawed, it isn't what we need. >=20 > I call on any other community members who reject this process to say = so, > not to remain silent. > #Iobject >=20 > We don't need a "Code of Conduct" nearly as much as we need "Leadersh= ip > in conduct". Without the leadership, any code looks like a joke. >=20 [...] =20 > I call on you, Greg: > - to abandon this divisive attempt to impose a "Code of Conduct" > - to revert 8a104f8b5867c68 Yes but this seems increasingly unlikely now. However, there may be an=20= alternative. Jugding by the release-message for 4.19, some people here are fans of=20= Monty Python's. No wonder - as those guys are famous for being unrelent= ing=20 supporters of Political Correctness. So one would be on the safe side if one just supplemented "Our Pledge"=20= with this: =09"Everybody has the right to be offended." I think, John Cleese would also welcome this.[1] What do you think? Regards! Rainer Fiebig [1] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3427218/Political-correctn= ess-killing-comedy-says-John-Cleese-Monty-Python-star-believes-fear-off= ending-certain-groups-lead-1984-style-society-free-expression-not-allow= ed.html =2D-=20 The truth always turns out to be simpler than you thought. 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