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From: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@suse.de>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com,
	anshuman.khandual@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] mm,memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from hotadded memory
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2019 09:56:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23dcfb4a-339b-dcaf-c037-331f82fdef5a@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190329084547.5k37xjwvkgffwajo@d104.suse.de>

On 29.03.19 09:45, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 04:31:44PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>> Correct me if I am wrong. I think I was confused - vmemmap data is still
>> allocated *per memory block*, not for the whole added memory, correct?
> 
> No, vmemap data is allocated per memory-resource added.
> In case a DIMM, would be a DIMM, in case a qemu memory-device, would be that
> memory-device.
> That is counting that ACPI does not split the DIMM/memory-device in several memory
> resources.
> If that happens, then acpi_memory_enable_device() calls __add_memory for every
> memory-resource, which means that the vmemmap data will be allocated per
> memory-resource.
> I did not see this happening though, and I am not sure under which circumstances
> can happen (I have to study the ACPI code a bit more).
> 
> The problem with allocating vmemmap data per memblock, is the fragmentation.
> Let us say you do the following:
> 
> * memblock granularity 128M
> 
> (qemu) object_add memory-backend-ram,id=ram0,size=256M
> (qemu) device_add pc-dimm,id=dimm0,memdev=ram0,node=1
> 
> This will create two memblocks (2 sections), and if we allocate the vmemmap
> data for each corresponding section within it section(memblock), you only get
> 126M contiguous memory.

Oh okay, so actually the way I guessed it would be now.

While this makes totally sense, I'll have to look how it is currently
handled, meaning if there is a change. I somewhat remembering that
delayed struct pages initialization would initialize vmmap per section,
not per memory resource.

But as I work on 10 things differently, my mind sometimes seems to
forget stuff in order to replace it with random nonsense. Will look into
the details to not have to ask too many dumb questions.

> 
> So, the taken approach is to allocate the vmemmap data corresponging to the
> whole DIMM/memory-device/memory-resource from the beginning of its memory.
> 
> In the example from above, the vmemmap data for both sections is allocated from
> the beginning of the first section:
> 
> memmap array takes 2MB per section, so 512 pfns.
> If we add 2 sections:
> 
> [  pfn#0  ]  \
> [  ...    ]  |  vmemmap used for memmap array
> [pfn#1023 ]  /  
> 
> [pfn#1024 ]  \
> [  ...    ]  |  used as normal memory
> [pfn#65536]  /
> 
> So, out of 256M, we get 252M to use as a real memory, as 4M will be used for
> building the memmap array.
> 
> Actually, it can happen that depending on how big a DIMM/memory-device is,
> the first/s memblock is fully used for the memmap array (of course, this
> can only be seen when adding a huge DIMM/memory-device).
> 

Just stating here, that with your code, add_memory() and remove_memory()
always have to be called in the same granularity. Will have to see if
that implies a change.

-- 

Thanks,

David / dhildenb

  reply	other threads:[~2019-03-29  8:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-28 13:43 [PATCH 0/4] mm,memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from hotadded memory Oscar Salvador
2019-03-28 13:43 ` [PATCH 1/4] mm, memory_hotplug: cleanup memory offline path Oscar Salvador
2019-04-03  8:43   ` Michal Hocko
2019-03-28 13:43 ` [PATCH 2/4] mm, memory_hotplug: provide a more generic restrictions for memory hotplug Oscar Salvador
2019-04-03  8:46   ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-03  8:48     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-04-04 10:04     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-04-04 10:06       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-04-04 10:31       ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-04 12:04         ` Oscar Salvador
2019-03-28 13:43 ` [PATCH 3/4] mm, memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from the added memory range for sparse-vmemmap Oscar Salvador
2019-03-28 13:43 ` [PATCH 4/4] mm, sparse: rename kmalloc_section_memmap, __kfree_section_memmap Oscar Salvador
2019-03-28 15:09 ` [PATCH 0/4] mm,memory_hotplug: allocate memmap from hotadded memory David Hildenbrand
2019-03-28 15:31   ` David Hildenbrand
2019-03-29  8:45     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-03-29  8:56       ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2019-03-29  9:01         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-03-29  9:20         ` Oscar Salvador
2019-03-29 13:42       ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-01  7:59         ` Oscar Salvador
2019-04-01 11:53           ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-02  8:28             ` Oscar Salvador
2019-04-02  8:39               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-04-02 12:48               ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-03  8:01                 ` Oscar Salvador
2019-04-03  8:12                   ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-03  8:17                     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-04-03  8:37                       ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-03  8:41                         ` David Hildenbrand
2019-04-03  8:49                           ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-03  8:53                             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-04-03  8:50                           ` Oscar Salvador
2019-04-03  8:54                             ` David Hildenbrand
2019-04-03  9:40                         ` Oscar Salvador
2019-04-03 10:46                           ` Michal Hocko
2019-04-04 10:25                           ` Vlastimil Babka
2019-04-03  8:34                     ` Oscar Salvador
2019-04-03  8:36                       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-03-29  8:30   ` Oscar Salvador
2019-03-29  8:51     ` David Hildenbrand
2019-03-29 22:23 ` John Hubbard
2019-04-01  7:52   ` Oscar Salvador

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