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From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@virtuozzo.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Adrian Reber <adrian@lisas.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Andrei Vagin <avagin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Hendrik Brueckner <brueckner@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@openvz.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kconfig: remove EXPERT from CHECKPOINT_RESTORE
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2018 11:35:50 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <23f87cb4-cdf5-0f9c-c7b9-a0abb228b77f@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sh4o5s82.fsf@xmission.com>

On 07/12/2018 07:33 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> Adrian Reber <adrian@lisas.de> writes:
> 
>> The CHECKPOINT_RESTORE configuration option was introduced in 2012 and
>> combined with EXPERT. CHECKPOINT_RESTORE is already enabled in many
>> distribution kernels and also part of the defconfigs of various
>> architectures.
>>
>> To make it easier for distributions to enable CHECKPOINT_RESTORE this
>> removes EXPERT and moves the configuration option out of the EXPERT
>> block.
> 
> I think we should change the help text at the same time, to match
> our improve understanding of the situation.
> 
> Does anyone remember why this option was added at all?

Sure! Quoting Andrew's ~7 years ago akpm branch merge e-mail:

   However I'm less confident than the developers that it will all
   eventually work! So what I'm asking them to do is to wrap each piece
   of new code inside CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE.  So if it all
   eventually comes to tears and the project as a whole fails, it should
   be a simple matter to go through and delete all trace of it.

the best link with full e-mail I googled for is
https://gitlab.imag.fr/kaunetem/linux-kaunetem/commit/099469502f62fbe0d7e4f0b83a2f22538367f734

-- Pavel

> Why this option was placed under expert?
> 
> What is the value of disabling this functionality ever?
> 
> Is there any reason why we don't just delete CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE
> entirely?
> 
> Certainly we are at a point where distro's are enabling this so hiding
> it behind CONFIG_EXPERT with a default of N seems inapparopriate.
> 
> The only thing I can imagine might be sensible is changing the default
> to Y and leaving it behind CONFIG_EXPERT.
> 
> I want to know what is the point of maintaining all of the complexity of
> the ifdefs.  If no one can come up with a reason I say let's just remove
> CONFIG_CHECKPOINT_RESTORE entirely.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
>> Signed-off-by: Adrian Reber <adrian@lisas.de>
>> Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
>> Cc: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@virtuozzo.com>
>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> Cc: Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>
>> Cc: Andrei Vagin <avagin@virtuozzo.com>
>> Cc: Hendrik Brueckner <brueckner@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>> ---
>>  init/Kconfig | 24 ++++++++++++------------
>>  1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/init/Kconfig b/init/Kconfig
>> index 041f3a022122..9c529c763326 100644
>> --- a/init/Kconfig
>> +++ b/init/Kconfig
>> @@ -932,6 +932,18 @@ config NET_NS
>>  
>>  endif # NAMESPACES
>>  
>> +config CHECKPOINT_RESTORE
>> +	bool "Checkpoint/restore support"
>> +	select PROC_CHILDREN
>> +	default n
>> +	help
>> +	  Enables additional kernel features in a sake of checkpoint/restore.
>> +	  In particular it adds auxiliary prctl codes to setup process text,
>> +	  data and heap segment sizes, and a few additional /proc filesystem
>> +	  entries.
>> +
>> +	  If unsure, say N here.
>> +
>>  config SCHED_AUTOGROUP
>>  	bool "Automatic process group scheduling"
>>  	select CGROUPS
>> @@ -1348,18 +1360,6 @@ config MEMBARRIER
>>  
>>  	  If unsure, say Y.
>>  
>> -config CHECKPOINT_RESTORE
>> -	bool "Checkpoint/restore support" if EXPERT
>> -	select PROC_CHILDREN
>> -	default n
>> -	help
>> -	  Enables additional kernel features in a sake of checkpoint/restore.
>> -	  In particular it adds auxiliary prctl codes to setup process text,
>> -	  data and heap segment sizes, and a few additional /proc filesystem
>> -	  entries.
>> -
>> -	  If unsure, say N here.
>> -
>>  config KALLSYMS
>>  	 bool "Load all symbols for debugging/ksymoops" if EXPERT
>>  	 default y
> .
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-13  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-12 13:07 [PATCH] kconfig: remove EXPERT from CHECKPOINT_RESTORE Adrian Reber
2018-07-12 13:47 ` Oleg Nesterov
2018-07-12 13:47 ` Hendrik Brueckner
2018-07-12 13:51   ` Alice Frosi
2018-07-12 16:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-13  8:35   ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2018-07-13 13:46     ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-13 14:20       ` Adrian Reber
2018-07-13 20:55   ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-14  4:44     ` Kees Cook
2018-07-14  6:02       ` Josh Triplett
2018-07-14 19:04       ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-14 19:10         ` Josh Triplett
2018-07-14 19:39           ` Eric W. Biederman
2018-07-14 20:16             ` Josh Triplett
2018-07-14 20:19             ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2018-07-13  8:23 ` Pavel Emelyanov

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