From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S263197AbTDMEJc (for ); Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:09:32 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S263198AbTDMEJc (for ); Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:09:32 -0400 Received: from franka.aracnet.com ([216.99.193.44]:64198 "EHLO franka.aracnet.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263197AbTDMEJb (for ); Sun, 13 Apr 2003 00:09:31 -0400 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 20:59:57 -0700 From: "Martin J. Bligh" To: "Robert P. J. Day" , Alan Cox cc: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>, John Bradford , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: kernel support for non-English user messages Message-ID: <241800000.1050206396@[10.10.2.4]> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.2.1 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> > > /Documentation could be a lot better than it is... Some of it >> > > is very out of date. >> > >> > >> > You are being way too kind. >> > >> > /Documentation is *awful*. >> >> You know where to submit contributions > > this is, from a personal perspective, simply too timely to pass up. in > fact, i have submitted six different patches, all aimed at either > improving the documentation or cleaning up configuration menus. > > without exception, every patch i have submitted directly has been dropped > without comment. the only one that was eventually accepted (rearranged > filesystems menu) was because someone else with more authority and higher > up the kernel-hacker food chain was gracious enough to submit it on my > behalf. Well, that's often what it takes, I'm afraid ... going direct to Linus is by no means the only way to work, and it's often not the easiest. Try picking someone who's interested in the area you're working on, if possible (ideally the maintainer if you can work out who it is). Failing that, try Andrew or Alan or both. > yes, i've read the "SubmittingPatches" guide, and at the risk of offending > a few people, i find it pretty irritating, if not downright patronizing, > to suggest that one should *expect* to have patches dropped without > comment, and should *expect* to have to work hard at resubmitting the same > patch until it takes. It's a bit like Darwinian evolution, or Democracy ... both rather horribly inefficient, but overall it's reasonably effective. Yeah, it's crap sometimes. Sorry. M.