From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262292AbVFTUne (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:43:34 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262295AbVFTUiB (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:38:01 -0400 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.170.205]:49881 "EHLO rproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S261508AbVFTUef convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:34:35 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=c+AAEG0DzbOpWoNwhVLZPmN6j7FQviGfZ5P8vyfra9HNXrD8pec7VOhmpa5Adb52jXf/+lt3nOsCK2KKcUVhVKUOK3SDad7leST8hgX7xuEjZ0KqKOiVwP0K7Hn2jvQEcs73t7vAoaaoGqsCVHO3jYZxhZV+NMYySTsBIgCg5+s= Message-ID: <2538186705062013345a002c5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2005 16:34:34 -0400 From: Yani Ioannou Reply-To: Yani Ioannou To: abonilla@linuxwireless.org Subject: Re: [ltp] Re: IBM HDAPS Someone interested? Cc: linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <006f01c575d6$41b9e480$600cc60a@amer.sykes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <2538186705062013113dce139@mail.gmail.com> <006f01c575d6$41b9e480$600cc60a@amer.sykes.com> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 6/20/05, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > Yani, > > What company has ever released a Linux driver, just for the heck of it, or > simply because they wanted it out? Hell no. Actually..a quick search through LKML and lm_sensors reveals quite a few, but there could always be more. > We have to be persistent and ask them to release something, we paid a lot of > money, and I have been missinformed to the fact that IBM loved Linux and > wanted to "support it". Looks like a big lie to me. They don't even need to > release a driver, just information. It is not even something that they only > have. Now we all know that Analog Devices makes the hardware. Not them. Well, aside from this having nothing to do with IBM anymore, I agree that I personally don't see the great harm in Lenevo releasing the information. Many other notebook manufactuers have a similair system now (Apple powerbooks, and some others) so the competitive advantage is waning. > If people would send emails to IBM like I have, instead of complaining and > doing pilitical arguments, we probably would have an answer already. I don't see how I did either of those :-|. I simply thought you hadn't seen the statement, obviously you had. I also wanted to provide what I thought was important feedback on what I had determined myself about the system. Yani