From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> To: Szabolcs Nagy <Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com> Cc: nd <nd@arm.com>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-api <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>, Dave Watson <davejwatson@fb.com>, Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>, Chris Lameter <cl@linux.com>, Ben Maurer <bmaurer@fb.com>, rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>, Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>, Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>, Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>, Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>, Joel Fernandes <joelaf@google.com>, shuah <shuah@kernel.org>, carlos <carlos@redhat.com>, Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>, Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com> Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.21 01/16] rseq/selftests: Add reference counter to coexist with glibc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 15:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <254339058.2585.1539286978932.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <f22ef029-2f30-6bd9-e46a-9e7b0a1e9225@arm.com> ----- On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Szabolcs Nagy Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com wrote: > On 11/10/18 17:37, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: >> ----- On Oct 11, 2018, at 12:20 PM, Szabolcs Nagy Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com wrote: >>> On 11/10/18 16:13, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: >>>> ----- On Oct 11, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Szabolcs Nagy Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com wrote: >>>>> On 10/10/18 20:19, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote: >>>>>> +__attribute__((visibility("hidden"))) __thread >>>>>> +volatile struct libc_rseq __lib_rseq_abi = { >>>>> ... >>> but it's in a magic struct that's called "abi" which is confusing, >>> the counter is not abi, it's in a hidden object. >> >> No, it is really an ABI between user-space apps/libs. It's not meant to be >> hidden. glibc implements its own register/unregister functions (it does not >> link against librseq). librseq exposes register/unregister functions as public >> APIs. Those also use the refcount. I also plan to have existing libraries, e.g. >> liblttng-ust and possibly liburcu flavors, implement the >> registration/unregistration and refcount handling on their own, so we don't >> have to add a requirement on additional linking on librseq for pre-existing >> libraries. >> >> So that refcount is not an ABI between kernel and user-space, but it's a >> user-space ABI nevertheless (between program and shared objects). >> > > if that's what you want, then your declaration is wrong. > the object should not have hidden visibility. Actually, if we look closer into my patch, it defines two symbols, one of which is an alias: __attribute__((visibility("hidden"))) __thread volatile struct libc_rseq __lib_rseq_abi = { .cpu_id = RSEQ_CPU_ID_UNINITIALIZED, }; extern __attribute__((weak, alias("__lib_rseq_abi"))) __thread volatile struct rseq __rseq_abi; Note that the public __rseq_abi symbol is weak but does not have hidden visibility. I do this to ensure I don't get prototype mismatch for __rseq_abi between rseq.c and rseq.h (it is required to be a struct rseq by rseq.h), but I want the space to hold the extra refcount field present in struct libc_rseq. > > then each library (glibc etc) will have its own separate > tls object with their own separate refcounter (and they > will unregister when their own refcounter hits 0) Given they all interact with the public __rseq_abi symbol, at field refcount offset, they all effectively use the same refcount field per thread, which serves the intended purpose. > > either the struct should be public abi (extern tls > symbol) or the register/unregister functions should > be public abi (so when multiple implementations are > present in the same process only one of them will > provide definition for the public abi symbol and > thus there will be one refcounter). Those are two possible solutions, indeed. Considering that we already need to expose the __rseq_abi symbol as a public ABI in a way that ensures that multiple implementations in a same process end up only using one of them, it seems straightforward to simply extend that structure and hold the refcount there, rather than having two extra ABI symbols (register/unregister functions). One very appropriate question here is whether we want to expose the layout of struct libc_rseq (which includes the refcount) in a public header file, and if so, which project should hold it ? Or do we just want to document the layout of this ABI so projects can define the structure layout internally ? As my implementation currently stands, I have the following structure duplicated into rseq selftests, librseq, and glibc: /* * linux/rseq.h defines struct rseq as aligned on 32 bytes. The kernel ABI * size is 20 bytes. For support of multiple rseq users within a process, * user-space defines an extra 4 bytes field as a reference count, for a * total of 24 bytes. */ struct libc_rseq { /* kernel-userspace ABI. */ __u32 cpu_id_start; __u32 cpu_id; __u64 rseq_cs; __u32 flags; /* user-space ABI. */ __u32 refcount; } __attribute__((aligned(4 * sizeof(__u64)))); That duplicated structure only needs to be present in early-adopter applications/libraries. Those linking on librseq or relying on newer glibc to register rseq don't need to know about this extended layout: all they need to care about is the layout of struct rseq (without the added refcount). Thanks, Mathieu -- Mathieu Desnoyers EfficiOS Inc. http://www.efficios.com
next prev parent reply index Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2018-10-10 19:19 [RFC PATCH for 4.21 00/16] rseq updates, new cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 01/16] rseq/selftests: Add reference counter to coexist with glibc Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-11 10:37 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2018-10-11 15:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-11 16:20 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2018-10-11 16:37 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-11 17:04 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2018-10-11 19:42 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message] 2018-10-12 9:59 ` Szabolcs Nagy 2018-10-23 14:59 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 02/16] rseq/selftests: Adapt number of threads to the number of detected cpus Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 03/16] sched: Implement push_task_to_cpu (v2) Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-17 6:51 ` Srikar Dronamraju 2018-10-17 15:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 04/16] mm: Introduce vm_map_user_ram, vm_unmap_user_ram Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-16 18:30 ` Steven Rostedt 2018-10-16 19:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-16 19:40 ` Steven Rostedt 2018-10-17 0:27 ` Sergey Senozhatsky 2018-10-17 15:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-17 15:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-17 15:34 ` Sergey Senozhatsky 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 05/16] mm: Provide is_vma_noncached Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 06/16] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call (v8) Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-16 8:10 ` Sergey Senozhatsky 2018-10-16 19:17 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-17 1:46 ` Sergey Senozhatsky 2018-10-17 7:19 ` Srikar Dronamraju 2018-10-17 15:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-17 16:09 ` Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 07/16] cpu_opv: limit amount of virtual address space used by cpu_opv Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 08/16] x86: Wire up cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 09/16] powerpc: " Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 10/16] arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 11/16] cpu-opv/selftests: Provide cpu-op library Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 12/16] cpu-opv/selftests: Provide basic test Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 13/16] cpu-opv/selftests: Provide percpu_op API Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 14/16] cpu-opv/selftests: Provide basic percpu ops test Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 15/16] cpu-opv/selftests: Provide parametrized tests Mathieu Desnoyers 2018-10-10 19:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.21 16/16] cpu-opv/selftests: Provide Makefile, scripts, gitignore Mathieu Desnoyers
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