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From: Steven Sistare <steven.sistare@oracle.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: mingo@redhat.com, subhra.mazumdar@oracle.com,
	dhaval.giani@oracle.com, rohit.k.jain@oracle.com,
	daniel.m.jordan@oracle.com, pavel.tatashin@microsoft.com,
	matt@codeblueprint.co.uk, umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com,
	riel@redhat.com, jbacik@fb.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] sched/fair: disable stealing if too many NUMA nodes
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 15:21:20 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <274b79fd-b001-3d30-3773-7f01940ca8a6@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1356a3cc-a9f2-6593-4737-1b20fc5daa75@oracle.com>

On 10/22/2018 2:47 PM, Steven Sistare wrote:
> On 10/22/2018 1:06 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 07:59:40AM -0700, Steve Sistare wrote:
>>> The STEAL feature causes regressions on hackbench on larger NUMA systems,
>>> so disable it on systems with more than sched_steal_node_limit nodes
>>> (default 2).
>>
>> How come? From a quick read the stealing is per LLC, where do we steal
>> across nodes?
> 
> See the complete explanation in this patch.  It is deeper than can be gleaned
> from a quick read.

I should have said a bit more.  Your quick take on stealing is correct, we do
not steal across nodes.  However, stealing reduces average run queue length which 
influences wake_affine migrations.  Now see the complete explanation.

- Steve



  reply	other threads:[~2018-10-22 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-22 14:59 [PATCH 00/10] steal tasks to improve CPU utilization Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 01/10] sched: Provide sparsemask, a reduced contention bitmap Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 02/10] sched/topology: Provide hooks to allocate data shared per LLC Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 03/10] sched/topology: Provide cfs_overload_cpus bitmap Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 04/10] sched/fair: Dynamically update cfs_overload_cpus Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 16:56   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-22 18:43     ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 05/10] sched/fair: Hoist idle_stamp up from idle_balance Steve Sistare
2018-10-25 13:47   ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-25 14:04     ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 06/10] sched/fair: Generalize the detach_task interface Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 07/10] sched/fair: Provide can_migrate_task_llc Steve Sistare
2018-10-26 18:04   ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-26 18:28     ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-29 19:34       ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-31 15:43         ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-31 18:48           ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-31 19:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-11-01 11:16           ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 08/10] sched/fair: Steal work from an overloaded CPU when CPU goes idle Steve Sistare
2018-10-25 13:48   ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-25 14:07     ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 09/10] sched/fair: disable stealing if too many NUMA nodes Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 17:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-22 18:47     ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-22 19:21       ` Steven Sistare [this message]
2018-10-22 22:05         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-23 13:18   ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-22 14:59 ` [PATCH 10/10] sched/fair: Provide idle search schedstats Steve Sistare
2018-10-22 17:04 ` [PATCH 00/10] steal tasks to improve CPU utilization Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-22 19:07   ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-22 22:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-24 15:34     ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-24 19:27       ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-25 11:31         ` Valentin Schneider
2018-10-25 12:21           ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-25  7:50 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-25 11:28   ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-25 12:43     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-10-25 14:19       ` Steven Sistare
2018-10-31 19:35 ` Steven Sistare
2018-11-01 11:56 ` Steven Sistare
2018-11-02 23:39 ` Subhra Mazumdar
2018-11-05 20:08   ` Steven Sistare
2019-01-04 13:37 ` Shijith Thotton

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