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From: Martin Steigerwald <>
To: Linus Torvalds <>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <>
Subject: Re: […] an apology, and a maintainership note
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 09:57:32 +0200
Message-ID: <2882117.Jnuu2veLAZ@merkaba> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <>

Dear Linus.

Linus Torvalds - 16.09.18, 21:22:
> This is my reality.  I am not an emotionally empathetic kind of person
> and that probably doesn't come as a big surprise to anybody.  Least
> of all me.  The fact that I then misread people and don't realize
> (for years) how badly I've judged a situation and contributed to an
> unprofessional environment is not good.
> This week people in our community confronted me about my lifetime of
> not understanding emotions.  My flippant attacks in emails have been
> both unprofessional and uncalled for.  Especially at times when I made
> it personal.  In my quest for a better patch, this made sense to me.
> I know now this was not OK and I am truly sorry.
> The above is basically a long-winded way to get to the somewhat
> painful personal admission that hey, I need to change some of my
> behavior, and I want to apologize to the people that my personal
> behavior hurt and possibly drove away from kernel development
> entirely.

I applaud you for the courage to go the bold step you have gone with 
this mail. I can imagine coming up with this mail has been challenging 
for you.

Your step provides a big chance for a shift to happen towards a more 
welcoming and friendly Linux kernel community. From what I saw here as 
mostly someone who tests rc kernels and as mostly a by-stander of kernel 
development you may not be the only one here having challenges to deal 
with emotions.

I once learned that there may be two types of personality, one who dives 
deeply into emotions and one who does not. Two types of personality who 
often have challenges to understand each other. I believe that people of 
those two types of personality can learn from each other.

It is important to move beyond right and wrong or good and bad in this. 
Whenever I act, I receive feedback (even the lack of feedback is a 
feedback). Do I like this feedback? Or do I like to create a different 
result? If I like to create a different result, its important to act 
differently, as its unlikely that the same behavior will create a 
different result.

Thank you, Linus.


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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-16 19:22 Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Linus Torvalds
2018-09-16 21:42 ` [...] " Adam Borowski
2018-09-16 23:59   ` Moritz Obermeier
2018-09-17  0:18 ` Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Rene Herman
2018-09-17  0:20 ` [...] " Andy Isaacson
2018-09-17  0:23 ` Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " Rene Herman
2018-09-17  6:57 ` opal hart
2018-09-17  7:57 ` Martin Steigerwald [this message]
2018-09-17  8:53   ` […] " Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-30 12:09     ` Re: Linux 4.19-rc4 released, " lkcl
2018-09-30 14:07       ` Martin Steigerwald
2018-09-30 16:27         ` Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
2018-09-17 12:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2018-09-17 17:09 ` Joe Perches
2018-09-17 21:09 ` Michael Woods
2018-09-18  1:30   ` Pavel Snajdr
2018-09-21 22:13     ` Michael Woods
2018-10-04 14:57     ` ebiederm
2018-10-08 15:29       ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2018-10-08 13:54     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2018-10-08 16:36 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult

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