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From: yalin wang <yalin.wang2010@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@suse.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@intel.com>,
	"Jie, Yang" <yang.jie@intel.com>,
	joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com, Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@canonical.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Luis Rodriguez <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Problems loading firmware using built-in drivers with kernels that use initramfs.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 13:30:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2B38A5C9-8940-464D-B473-CF62E8BD84C4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFxcC=RFzpk0AF68krv6UtazT1cmaQoKgz5+dY9Zzcu4Kg@mail.gmail.com>


> On Aug 26, 2015, at 04:26, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Dmitry Torokhov
> <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Either build firmware in the kernel or ramdisk (so it is always
>> available), or make sure request_firmware() calls are not in driver's
>> probe() paths.
> 
> The correct answer is almost always that second one.
> 
> Drivers that load firmware in their probe parts are generally doign
> things wrong.
> 
> It's very occasionally the right thing to do - there are a few pieces
> of hardware where just about _everything_ about the device is in the
> firmware, and you simply can't even problem them before that, because
> you don't know what they *are* before the firmware has been loaded.
> The extreme case of that might be something like the base hardware
> being an FPGA that has a USB interface, but before the FPGA has been
> loaded, it basically has no identity. So there are probably valid
> cases in theory for loading firmware at probe time, but pretty much
> every single case I've ever actually seen, the probe knows what the
> actual hardware is from some identifiable piece, and the actual
> firmware loading should be delayed until the piece of hardware is
> actually opened.
> 
> So the "load firmware in probe routine" happens, and we shouldn't
> disallow it, but it should be considered a "last resort" kind of
> thing.
> 
> In general, things like sound drivers should *not* need to have their
> firmware in the initrd, even if you build them into the kernel. A disk
> driver? Yes. Maybe the root filesystem is on that disk, and you need
> the firmware for the disk driver to load it. But a sound device?
> Please just make sure that you load the firmware as late as possible.
> 
i remember lots of drivers load their firmware when some user space process
open the device node, that is to say, they load the firmware in 
->open() function, at this time , you can make sure the real filesystem is ready in
most time.  

i think your dsp firmware can also do like this.
you can refer to msm gnu driver:

static void load_gpu(struct drm_device *dev)
{
	static DEFINE_MUTEX(init_lock);
	struct msm_drm_private *priv = dev->dev_private;

	mutex_lock(&init_lock);

	if (!priv->gpu)
		priv->gpu = adreno_load_gpu(dev);

	mutex_unlock(&init_lock);
}

static int msm_open(struct drm_device *dev, struct drm_file *file)
{
	struct msm_file_private *ctx;

	/* For now, load gpu on open.. to avoid the requirement of having
	 * firmware in the initrd.
	 */
	load_gpu(dev);

	ctx = kzalloc(sizeof(*ctx), GFP_KERNEL);
	if (!ctx)
		return -ENOMEM;

	file->driver_priv = ctx;

	return 0;
}
it load the firmware in open() function.

Thanks












  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-26  5:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found]   ` <rbhuamrc6ajy3l1qereb60l8.1440494220682@email.android.com>
2015-08-25 19:34     ` Problems loading firmware using built-in drivers with kernels that use initramfs Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-25 19:46       ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-25 19:58         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-08-25 20:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-26  5:30             ` yalin wang [this message]
2015-08-26  5:12           ` Jie, Yang
2015-08-26  5:32             ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-26  6:17               ` Jie, Yang
2015-08-26  8:06                 ` Liam Girdwood
2015-08-26  8:29                   ` Jie, Yang
2015-08-26  9:00                     ` Liam Girdwood
2015-08-27  1:50                       ` Lin, Mengdong
2015-08-27  7:09                         ` Liam Girdwood
2015-08-26 18:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-27  0:55                     ` Ming Lei
2015-08-29  1:11                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-29  4:09                         ` Ming Lei
2015-08-29  7:11                           ` Takashi Iwai
2015-08-29  8:50                             ` Arend van Spriel
2015-08-29 10:38                               ` Ming Lei
2015-08-30  8:25                                 ` Arend van Spriel
2015-08-30 18:11                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2015-12-17 19:24                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-08-31 14:21                                   ` Ming Lei
2015-09-02  1:19                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-02 12:09                                       ` Arend van Spriel
2015-09-02 12:13                                         ` Arend van Spriel
2015-09-02 18:58                                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-02 21:03                                             ` Arend van Spriel
2015-09-02 23:13                                               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-09-02 23:22                                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-02 23:29                                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-09-02 23:46                                                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-09-03 17:23                                                       ` Arend van Spriel
2015-09-03 17:33                                                         ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-10-16 19:35                                                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-10-16 21:05                                                             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-10-17  8:31                                                             ` Arend van Spriel
2015-09-02 20:43                                           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-09-02  0:39                           ` Luis R. Rodriguez

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