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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>
Cc: KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>,
	Florent Revest <revest@chromium.org>,
	Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@chromium.org>,
	jmorris@namei.org, Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/7] bpf: Introduce BPF_MODIFY_RETURN
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 10:47:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a46d961-5cb8-bfc1-9e42-26d8af97ae86@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEjxPJ7EQjq2J8AGn+b90=yMG9H5CaNErk1PqtTz8T3CwdAvJw@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/5/2020 10:03 AM, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 12:35 PM Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com> wrote:
>> I believe that I have stated that order isn't my issue.
>> Go first, last or as specified in the lsm list, I really
>> don't care. We'll talk about what does matter in the KRSI
>> thread.
> Order matters when the security module logic (in this case, the BPF
> program) is loaded from userspace and
> the userspace process isn't already required to be fully privileged
> with respect to the in-kernel security modules.
> CAP_MAC_ADMIN was their (not unreasonable) attempt to check that
> requirement; it just doesn't happen to convey
> the same meaning for SELinux since SELinux predates the introduction
> of CAP_MAC_ADMIN (in Linux at least) and
> since SELinux was designed to confine even processes with capabilities.

If KRSI "needs" to go last, I'm fine with that. What I continue
to object to is making KRSI/BPF a special case in the code. It
doesn't need to be.
 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-05 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-04 19:18 [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/7] Introduce BPF_MODIFY_RET tracing progs KP Singh
2020-03-04 19:18 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/7] bpf: Refactor trampoline update code KP Singh
2020-03-04 19:18 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 2/7] bpf: JIT helpers for fmod_ret progs KP Singh
2020-03-04 19:18 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/7] bpf: Introduce BPF_MODIFY_RETURN KP Singh
2020-03-05 13:51   ` Stephen Smalley
2020-03-05 15:54     ` KP Singh
2020-03-05 17:35       ` Casey Schaufler
2020-03-05 18:03         ` Stephen Smalley
2020-03-05 18:47           ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2020-03-05 19:43       ` Stephen Smalley
2020-03-05 21:16         ` KP Singh
2020-03-04 19:18 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 4/7] bpf: Attachment verification for BPF_MODIFY_RETURN KP Singh
2020-03-05 13:43   ` Stephen Smalley
2020-03-05 17:21     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-04 19:18 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 5/7] tools/libbpf: Add support " KP Singh
2020-03-04 19:18 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 6/7] bpf: Add test ops for BPF_PROG_TYPE_TRACING KP Singh
2020-03-04 19:18 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 7/7] bpf: Add selftests for BPF_MODIFY_RETURN KP Singh
2020-03-04 22:17 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/7] Introduce BPF_MODIFY_RET tracing progs Alexei Starovoitov
2020-03-05 17:43   ` KP Singh

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