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Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-GB Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:L2cLK2Xb8zF2nedlHGp91/vQkl6r8dBDov8HbnVZG91f3GjihDO 70F9OKg5rtvA/qH3/LnCj6419W9aV+2DHY1WZQxgNf8phJK3dWPuIJSJKk4j/RC2ZQO1GQC hldl411SVDoNOSRhlRm2v0efSpAOSeJJ3h1R3hPsxsoswuyCPnTvrJemp5MF13M7pIsUCos geNom8Sa8Px1OGOrufhNg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:LNccG5OfLwk=:5OHxPkoeOwQ17LSCn6kola uz8GKhvr1RQS+sfXFavCiXRhzOhdFwemfkFoAX1jdGBGfQe1iQeKmN3GhUnOXQW6v41qLCvyQ uDV6gAUFNa+htB0LWh19ThWqr0otQgjBLh1D37ob0QWoBnZKmHBBlbh0wUzYQbe1QEQooWDuU Y1SY5MccqvIiFWaYkDxkrhl+yzBcHRx3Xg/AlIz0vDdH8HRgiZStGBmN9Jv3jqYPlw0pcZcfO L80t+HvdjfARNGKVWOHzQf2bkqVtYOHe4CKK8oerSnudJjLvDGcAaySnNOSb0CqZAR/c9tyXO Tw+CtSIXbns3GqkkP+/OqWOQXDjcMkZcG1APv5ifM+EFtPoik2ESgLIWCLui7wpHkXHUb6V0w /CMYRWiZqYSD4h41J4c6NGCCR+E/1l/nQQnlmoZwccIiUdRz97WWwTfA6eM8aSmk3/wOOUWVm 6H6bww54KLTLKwMHkm4zMQtvR0kBWx/OEQOGfHzBfNQ/SgZCbsRfExKQ3JQhjNPTYTHAEmbyJ 8vvVOGFt+3H+uevZDmqFVeUkn4K/mXyfvniecpkpmOmCVNxeb/hDGUCG8N5w4unBdgOgdbLFl WgYOEnUrpZsJcMpMCFpnLw99GkPyVnWmcS1y87sBstAzfLRdBNN0tkaJ2sVynW/cpSZjn1CYf V5RHnFMQHSjrBayPQNZR2q1vljhRPo0AnXjPBSnhV47tKTu42EjHcut3FvdoxdI4pjSPtiQMQ II/rTs794eVrAwWs0i79nMUunzZWVYeDMOJD+n2zdZIQWO1BKr3Cm3QOf6oafcVzngLsyzhic M0esQlVqW/WhN2m3sGoLVLrYkEVCC3FSTEZlV51IEUKYGzjoffvAGFh4bpVaF9ZYJ3k+LWji+ e/SUgUMiVEZfmqKS2viNaP8l0ntVfht8/VvzlNbYzbff6NYBS3f7Q2iAK0EAGP55Th3cCNH6n FTJza4WOwT/jxhe1cErd5ZAdzwkkVy8607JeLfCV5JhTf9uen4i40077uN8ZB6Vp0//INI+KE ApeJM9clBA3ZyaP/X0PQmHJnDvwXAKV5V3lhYhtvDY3TtVemGNahVQi0qOFe/MhvAXN0krqkn 4ZKWdFnMvpw9SvU2+34QNY+g+D9AXJmWUHOcDy1Fsj3YVg1dtoPg1kTw7N8vZ55iYgm3Ig+5e /ze+wxHYQjzgvhwXmNVN0Tf/4nl1DLyAH4wH/8lARi4v0j/CWCI9s8w5IaFhy/YzjHdtmpBbf MmI/Jwo/jzqcWEiWA Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > > I imagined that the bug report (combined with a patch) was triggered b= y > > an evolving source code analysis approach which will be explained > > in another research paper. Is such a view appropriate? > > https://github.com/umnsec/cheq/ > > Could you elaborate more on "university research groups?" You are working together for the publishing of some papers which will eventually be presented at conferences. You might build additional relationships and participate in further work g= roups. > We are continuously working on automated kernel analysis This is good to know. > to improve the unfortunately very buggy kernel. There are various software development challenges to consider. Have you got a desire to express connections to recent research results also in commit messages? Regards, Markus