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From: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: "Stephen Bates" <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <helgaas@kernel.org>,
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	"Sagi Grimberg" <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@mellanox.com>,
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	"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"Benjamin Herrenschmidt" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 04/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Clear ACS P2P flags for all devices behind switches
Date: Tue, 8 May 2018 17:15:21 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ce7908d-1422-55f8-aeba-94ccce2cb484@deltatee.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4i1ksiu1pExF=EE21P2Wz1a9LaDaG247oG_WSbYgcR93g@mail.gmail.com>



On 08/05/18 05:00 PM, Dan Williams wrote:
>> I'd advise caution with a user supplied BDF approach, we have no
>> guaranteed persistence for a device's PCI address.  Adding a device
>> might renumber the buses, replacing a device with one that consumes
>> more/less bus numbers can renumber the buses, motherboard firmware
>> updates could renumber the buses, pci=assign-buses can renumber the
>> buses, etc.  This is why the VT-d spec makes use of device paths when
>> describing PCI hierarchies, firmware can't know what bus number will be
>> assigned to a device, but it does know the base bus number and the path
>> of devfns needed to get to it.  I don't know how we come up with an
>> option that's easy enough for a user to understand, but reasonably
>> robust against hardware changes.  Thanks,
> 
> True, but at the same time this feature is for "users with custom
> hardware designed for purpose", I assume they would be willing to take
> on the bus renumbering risk. It's already the case that
> /sys/bus/pci/drivers/<x>/bind takes BDF, which is why it seemed to
> make a similar interface for the command line. Ideally we could later
> get something into ACPI or other platform firmware to arrange for
> bridges to disable ACS by default if we see p2p becoming a
> common-off-the-shelf feature. I.e. a BIOS switch to enable p2p in a
> given PCI-E sub-domain.

Yeah, I'm having a hard time coming up with an easy enough solution for
the user. I agree with Dan though, the bus renumbering risk would be
fairly low in the custom hardware seeing the switches are likely going
to be directly soldered to the same board with the CPU.

That being said, I supposed we could allow the command line to take both
a BDF or a BaseBus/DF/DF/DF path. Though, implementing this sounds like
a bit of a challenge.

Logan

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-08 23:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-23 23:30 [PATCH v4 00/14] Copy Offload in NVMe Fabrics with P2P PCI Memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Support peer-to-peer memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-07 23:09     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Add sysfs group to display p2pmem stats Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Add PCI p2pmem dma mappings to adjust the bus offset Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:02   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Clear ACS P2P flags for all devices behind switches Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-24  3:33   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-07 23:13   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-08  7:17     ` Christian König
2018-05-08 14:25       ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-08 16:37         ` Christian König
2018-05-08 16:27       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 16:50         ` Christian König
2018-05-08 19:13           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 19:34             ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 19:45               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 20:13                 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 20:19                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 20:43                     ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 20:49                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 21:26                         ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 21:42                           ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-08 22:03                             ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 22:10                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 22:25                                 ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-08 23:11                                   ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 23:31                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-09  0:17                                       ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 22:32                                 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 23:00                                   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08 23:15                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe [this message]
2018-05-09 12:38                                       ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-08 22:21                               ` Don Dutile
2018-05-09 12:44                                 ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-09 15:58                                   ` Don Dutile
2018-05-08 20:50                     ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-08 21:35                       ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-09 13:12                       ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-09 13:40                         ` Christian König
2018-05-09 15:41                           ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-09 16:07                             ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-09 16:30                               ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-09 17:49                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 14:20                                   ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-10 14:29                                     ` Christian König
2018-05-10 14:59                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 18:44                                         ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-09 16:45                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-10 12:52                             ` Christian König
2018-05-10 14:16                               ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-10 14:41                                 ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 18:41                                   ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-10 18:59                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-10 19:10                                     ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-10 19:24                                       ` Jerome Glisse
2018-05-10 16:32                                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-10 17:11                                   ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-10 17:15                                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-11  8:52                                       ` Christian König
2018-05-11 15:48                                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-11 21:50                                           ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-11 22:24                                             ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-11 22:55                                               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 14:31   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-08 14:44     ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-08 21:04       ` Don Dutile
2018-05-08 21:27         ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-08 23:06           ` Don Dutile
2018-05-09  0:01             ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-09 12:35               ` Stephen  Bates
2018-05-09 14:44                 ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-09 15:52                   ` Don Dutile
2018-05-09 15:47               ` Don Dutile
2018-05-09 15:53           ` Don Dutile
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] docs-rst: Add a new directory for PCI documentation Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] PCI/P2PDMA: Add P2P DMA driver writer's documentation Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:20   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-22 21:24   ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-22 21:28     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] block: Introduce PCI P2P flags for request and request queue Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] IB/core: Ensure we map P2P memory correctly in rdma_rw_ctx_[init|destroy]() Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] nvme-pci: Use PCI p2pmem subsystem to manage the CMB Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] nvme-pci: Add support for P2P memory in requests Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] nvme-pci: Add a quirk for a pseudo CMB Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] nvmet: Introduce helper functions to allocate and free request SGLs Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] nvmet-rdma: Use new SGL alloc/free helper for requests Logan Gunthorpe
2018-04-23 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] nvmet: Optionally use PCI P2P memory Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-02 11:51 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] Copy Offload in NVMe Fabrics with P2P PCI Memory Christian König
2018-05-02 15:56   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-03  9:05     ` Christian König
2018-05-03 15:59       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-03 17:29         ` Christian König
2018-05-03 18:43           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-04 14:27             ` Christian König
2018-05-04 15:52               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-07 23:23 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-07 23:34   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 16:57   ` Alex Williamson
2018-05-08 19:14     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2018-05-08 21:25     ` Don Dutile
2018-05-08 21:40       ` Alex Williamson

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