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From: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Mack" <daniel@zonque.org>,
	"Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>,
	"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>, "Jann Horn" <jann@thejh.net>,
	"Tejun Heo" <tj@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Thomas Graf" <tgraf@suug.ch>,
	"Michael Kerrisk" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Linux API" <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Network Development" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Potential issues (security and otherwise) with the current cgroup-bpf API
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:44:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2dbec775-6304-e44c-19c5-fbf07877e7b1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU1_bDVLfokQ7zasHVmeq7S-R+603GEw59V_wuj4eE1hw@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/19/16 5:25 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> net.socket_create_filter = "none": no filter
> net.socket_create_filter = "bpf:baadf00d": bpf filter
> net.socket_create_filter = "disallow": no sockets created period
> net.socket_create_filter = "iptables:foobar": some iptables thingy
> net.socket_create_filter = "nft:blahblahblah": some nft thingy
> net.socket_create_filter = "address_family_list:1,2,3": allow AF 1, 2, and 3

Such a scheme works for the socket create filter b/c it is a very simple use case. It does not work for the ingress and egress which allow generic bpf filters.

...

>> you're ignoring use cases I described earlier.
>> In vrf case there is only one ifindex it needs to bind to.
> 
> I'm totally lost.  Can you explain what this has to do with the cgroup
> hierarchy?

I think the point is that a group hierarchy makes no sense for the VRF use case. What I put into iproute2 is

    cgrp2/vrf/NAME

where NAME is the vrf name. The filter added to it binds ipv4 and ipv6 sockets to a specific device index. cgrp2/vrf is the "default" vrf and does not have a filter. A user can certainly add another layer cgrp2/vrf/NAME/NAME2 but it provides no value since VRF in a VRF does not make sense. 

...

>>> I like this last one, but IT'S NOT A POSSIBLE FUTURE EXTENSION.  You
>>> have to do it now (or disable the feature for 4.10).  This is why I'm
>>> bringing this whole thing up now.
>>
>> We don't have to touch user visible api here, so extensions are fine.
> 
> Huh?  My example in the original email attaches a program in a
> sub-hierarchy.  Are you saying that 4.11 could make that example stop
> working?

Are you suggesting sub-cgroups should not be allowed to override the filter of a parent cgroup?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-20  1:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-17 18:18 Potential issues (security and otherwise) with the current cgroup-bpf API Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-17 19:26 ` Mickaël Salaün
2016-12-17 20:02   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-19 20:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-19 21:23   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  0:02     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-20  0:25       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  1:43         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  1:44         ` David Ahern [this message]
2016-12-20  1:56           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  2:52             ` David Ahern
2016-12-20  3:12               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  4:44                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-20  5:27                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  5:32                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-20  9:11             ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-03 10:25               ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-16  1:19                 ` Tejun Heo
2017-01-17 13:03                   ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 13:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-01-17 13:58                       ` Michal Hocko
2017-01-17 20:23                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-18 22:18                         ` Tejun Heo
2017-01-19  9:00                           ` Michal Hocko
2016-12-20  3:18         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-20  3:50           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  4:41             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-20 10:21             ` Daniel Mack
2016-12-20 17:23               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20 18:36                 ` Daniel Mack
2016-12-20 18:49                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-21  4:01                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-20  1:34       ` David Miller
2016-12-20  1:40         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-20  4:51           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-12-20  5:26             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-17  5:18 Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-18 22:41 ` Potential issues (security and otherwise) with the current cgroup-bpf API Tejun Heo
2017-01-19  0:18   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-19  0:59     ` Tejun Heo
2017-01-19  2:29       ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-20  2:39         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-01-20  4:04           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-23  4:31             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-01-23 20:20               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-03 21:07                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-03 23:21                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2017-02-04 17:10                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-01-19  1:01     ` Mickaël Salaün

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