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From: Julien Thierry <jthierry@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	mhiramat@kernel.org, mbenes@suse.cz,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] objtool,ftrace: Implement UNWIND_HINT_RET_OFFSET
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 09:16:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <30b3df44-6254-b5a7-2f5d-0bc071adb00e@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200402075036.GA20730@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On 4/2/20 8:50 AM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 07:41:46AM +0100, Julien Thierry wrote:
>> On 4/1/20 6:09 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> 
>>> The code in question (x86's sync_core()), is an exception return to
>>> self. It pushes an exception frame that points to right after the
>>> exception return instruction.
>>>
>>> This is the only usage of IRET in STT_FUNC symbols.
>>>
>>> So rather than teaching objtool how to interpret the whole
>>> push;push;push;push;push;iret sequence, teach it how big the frame is
>>> (arch_exception_frame_size) and let it continue.
>>>
>>> All the other (real) IRETs are in STT_NOTYPE in the entry assembly.
>>>
>>
>> Right, I see.. However I'm not completely convinced by this. I must admit I
>> haven't followed the whole conversation, but what was the issue with the
>> HINT_IRET_SELF? It seemed more elegant, but I might be missing some context.
> 
> https://lkml.kernel.org/r/20200331211755.pb7f3wa6oxzjnswc@treble
> 
> Josh didn't think it was worth it, I think.
> 
>> Otherwise, it might be worth having a comment in the code to point that this
>> only handles the sync_core() case.
> 
> I can certainly do that. Does ARM have any ERETs sprinkled around in
> places it should not have? That is, is this going to be a problem for
> you?
> 

I had a quick look and I don't think there are ERETS in function 
symbols. And, worst case scenario, I could also just keep the arm64 
decoder making ERETS as INSN_CONTEXT_SWITCH as I didn't need more 
semantics so far (and arm64 ERET don't affect the stack anyway).

After you pointed out this only affect this very specific pattern, I 
admit that my concerns are more about "not having weird stuff in the 
generic part".
If it's too much of a hassle I can understand if you prefer to just put 
a comment. But if most of this can be kept to the arch specific decoder 
I think it'd be nicer :) .

>> Also, instead of adding a special "arch_exception_frame_size", I could
>> suggest:
>> - Picking this patch [1] from a completely arbitrary source
>> - Getting rid of INSN_STACK type, any instruction could then include stack
>> ops on top of their existing semantics, they can just have an empty list if
>> they don't touch SP/BP
>> - x86 decoder adds a stack_op to the iret to modify the stack pointer by the
>> right amount
> 
> That's not the worst idea, lemme try that.
> 

Thanks, keep me in Cc if you post a new version using that!

Cheers,

-- 
Julien Thierry


  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-02  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-25 17:45 [PATCH v4 00/13] objtool: vmlinux.o and moinstr validation Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 01/13] objtool: Remove CFI save/restore special case Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-26 11:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-26 12:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-26 13:44       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-26 15:38         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-27  4:19           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-26 14:44       ` Miroslav Benes
2020-03-26 15:04         ` Miroslav Benes
2020-03-26 13:00     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-26 13:56     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-26 15:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-26 19:57         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-27  1:00           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-30 17:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-30 19:02               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-30 20:02                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-30 20:29                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-31 11:16                   ` [RFC][PATCH] objtool,ftrace: Implement UNWIND_HINT_RET_OFFSET Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-31 15:31                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-03-31 16:06                       ` [RFC][PATCH] x86,ftrace: Shrink ftrace_regs_caller() by one byte Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-31 19:58                       ` [RFC][PATCH] objtool,ftrace: Implement UNWIND_HINT_RET_OFFSET Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-31 20:26                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-31 20:23                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-31 20:40                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-31 21:07                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-31 21:17                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-31 21:20                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-03-31 22:27                             ` [PATCH v2] " Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-01 14:14                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-01 14:22                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-01 14:39                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-01 15:38                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-01 15:39                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-01 15:43                               ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-01 17:09                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-01 17:33                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-01 17:45                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-01 18:20                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-04-01 20:20                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-01 17:37                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-02  6:41                                   ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02  6:56                                     ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02  7:50                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02  8:16                                       ` Julien Thierry [this message]
2020-04-02  8:17                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02  8:29                                         ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02  8:58                                           ` Miroslav Benes
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 02/13] objtool: Factor out CFI hints Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 18:26   ` Miroslav Benes
2020-03-25 19:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 03/13] objtool: Rename struct cfi_state Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 04/13] objtool: Fix !CFI insn_state propagation Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 05/13] objtool: Implement noinstr validation Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 06/13] objtool: Optimize !vmlinux.o again Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 07/13] objtool: Use sec_offset_hash() for insn_hash Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 08/13] objtool: Detect loading function pointers across noinstr Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 09/13] kbuild/objtool: Add objtool-vmlinux.o pass Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 10/13] objtool: Avoid iterating !text section symbols Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 11/13] objtool: Rearrange validate_section() Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 12/13] objtool: Add STT_NOTYPE noinstr validation Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 17:45 ` [PATCH v4 13/13] objtool: Also consider .entry.text as noinstr Peter Zijlstra
2020-03-25 19:03 ` [PATCH v4 00/13] objtool: vmlinux.o and moinstr validation Miroslav Benes

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