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From: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, linux-cachefs@redhat.com,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@netapp.com>,
	Steve French <sfrench@samba.org>,
	Dominique Martinet <asmadeus@codewreck.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Omar Sandoval <osandov@osandov.com>,
	JeffleXu <jefflexu@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org,
	v9fs-developer@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 44/68] cachefiles: Implement key to filename encoding
Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2022 11:19:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3149374.1641554392@warthog.procyon.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1e102cc81aaf71df2b7f5ae906b79c188a34a111.camel@kernel.org>

Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org> wrote:

> Since most cookies are fairly small, is there any real benefit to
> optimizing for length here? How much inflation are we talking about?

Taking AFS as an example, a vnode is represented at the file level by two
numbers: a 32-bit or 96-bit file ID and a 32-bit uniquifier.  If it's a 96-bit
file ID, a lot of the time, the upper 64-bits will be zero, so we're talking
something like:

	S421d4,1f07f34,,

instead of:

	S000421d401f07f340000000000000000

or:

	E0AAQh1AHwfzQAAAAAAAAAAA==

The first makes for a more readable name in the cache.  The real fun is with
NFS, where the name can be very long.  For one that's just 5 words in length:

	T81010001,1,20153e2,,a906194b

instead of:

	T8101000100000001020153e200000000a906194b

or:

	E0gQEAAQAAAAECAVPiAAAAAKkGGUs=

(The letter on the front represents the encoding scheme; in the base64 encoding
the second digit indicates the amount of padding).

I don't know how much difference it makes to the backing filesystem's
directory packing - and it may depend on the particular filesystem.

David


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-07 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-22 23:13 [PATCH v4 00/68] fscache, cachefiles: Rewrite David Howells
2021-12-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v4 01/68] fscache, cachefiles: Disable configuration David Howells
2021-12-22 23:13 ` [PATCH v4 02/68] cachefiles: Delete the cachefiles driver pending rewrite David Howells
2021-12-22 23:14 ` [PATCH v4 03/68] fscache: Remove the contents of the fscache driver, " David Howells
2021-12-22 23:14 ` [PATCH v4 04/68] netfs: Display the netfs inode number in the netfs_read tracepoint David Howells
2021-12-22 23:14 ` [PATCH v4 05/68] netfs: Pass a flag to ->prepare_write() to say if there's no alloc'd space David Howells
2021-12-22 23:15 ` [PATCH v4 06/68] fscache: Introduce new driver David Howells
2021-12-22 23:15 ` [PATCH v4 07/68] fscache: Implement a hash function David Howells
2021-12-22 23:15 ` [PATCH v4 08/68] fscache: Implement cache registration David Howells
2021-12-22 23:15 ` [PATCH v4 09/68] fscache: Implement volume registration David Howells
2021-12-22 23:16 ` [PATCH v4 10/68] fscache: Implement cookie registration David Howells
2021-12-22 23:16 ` [PATCH v4 11/68] fscache: Implement cache-level access helpers David Howells
2021-12-22 23:16 ` [PATCH v4 12/68] fscache: Implement volume-level " David Howells
2021-12-22 23:17 ` [PATCH v4 13/68] fscache: Implement cookie-level " David Howells
2021-12-22 23:17 ` [PATCH v4 14/68] fscache: Implement functions add/remove a cache David Howells
2021-12-22 23:17 ` [PATCH v4 15/68] fscache: Provide and use cache methods to lookup/create/free a volume David Howells
2021-12-22 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 16/68] fscache: Add a function for a cache backend to note an I/O error David Howells
2021-12-22 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 17/68] fscache: Implement simple cookie state machine David Howells
2021-12-22 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 18/68] fscache: Implement cookie user counting and resource pinning David Howells
2021-12-22 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 19/68] fscache: Implement cookie invalidation David Howells
2021-12-22 23:18 ` [PATCH v4 20/68] fscache: Provide a means to begin an operation David Howells
2021-12-22 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 21/68] fscache: Count data storage objects in a cache David Howells
2021-12-22 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 22/68] fscache: Provide read/write stat counters for the cache David Howells
2021-12-22 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 23/68] fscache: Provide a function to let the netfs update its coherency data David Howells
2021-12-22 23:19 ` [PATCH v4 24/68] netfs: Pass more information on how to deal with a hole in the cache David Howells
2021-12-22 23:20 ` [PATCH v4 25/68] fscache: Implement raw I/O interface David Howells
2021-12-22 23:20 ` [PATCH v4 26/68] fscache: Implement higher-level write " David Howells
2021-12-22 23:20 ` [PATCH v4 27/68] vfs, fscache: Implement pinning of cache usage for writeback David Howells
2021-12-22 23:20 ` [PATCH v4 28/68] fscache: Provide a function to note the release of a page David Howells
2022-01-06 15:55   ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-06 16:26   ` David Howells
2021-12-22 23:21 ` [PATCH v4 29/68] fscache: Provide a function to resize a cookie David Howells
2021-12-22 23:21 ` [PATCH v4 30/68] cachefiles: Introduce rewritten driver David Howells
2021-12-22 23:21 ` [PATCH v4 31/68] cachefiles: Define structs David Howells
2021-12-22 23:22 ` [PATCH v4 32/68] cachefiles: Add some error injection support David Howells
2021-12-22 23:22 ` [PATCH v4 33/68] cachefiles: Add a couple of tracepoints for logging errors David Howells
2021-12-22 23:22 ` [PATCH v4 34/68] cachefiles: Add cache error reporting macro David Howells
2021-12-22 23:22 ` [PATCH v4 35/68] cachefiles: Add security derivation David Howells
2021-12-22 23:23 ` [PATCH v4 36/68] cachefiles: Register a miscdev and parse commands over it David Howells
2021-12-22 23:23 ` [PATCH v4 37/68] cachefiles: Provide a function to check how much space there is David Howells
2021-12-22 23:23 ` [PATCH v4 38/68] vfs, cachefiles: Mark a backing file in use with an inode flag David Howells
2022-01-06 17:04   ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-08  7:08   ` Amir Goldstein
2022-01-08  7:17     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-10  7:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-10 11:31       ` David Howells
2022-01-08  8:43     ` David Howells
2022-01-08  8:41   ` David Howells
2021-12-22 23:23 ` [PATCH v4 39/68] cachefiles: Implement a function to get/create a directory in the cache David Howells
2021-12-22 23:23 ` [PATCH v4 40/68] cachefiles: Implement cache registration and withdrawal David Howells
2022-01-06 17:17   ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-06 17:44   ` David Howells
2021-12-22 23:24 ` [PATCH v4 41/68] cachefiles: Implement volume support David Howells
2021-12-22 23:24 ` [PATCH v4 42/68] cachefiles: Add tracepoints for calls to the VFS David Howells
2021-12-22 23:24 ` [PATCH v4 43/68] cachefiles: Implement object lifecycle funcs David Howells
2021-12-22 23:24 ` [PATCH v4 44/68] cachefiles: Implement key to filename encoding David Howells
2022-01-06 17:43   ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-07 11:19   ` David Howells [this message]
2021-12-22 23:25 ` [PATCH v4 45/68] cachefiles: Implement metadata/coherency data storage in xattrs David Howells
2021-12-22 23:25 ` [PATCH v4 46/68] cachefiles: Mark a backing file in use with an inode flag David Howells
2022-01-06 18:04   ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-07 11:25   ` David Howells
2021-12-22 23:25 ` [PATCH v4 47/68] cachefiles: Implement culling daemon commands David Howells
2021-12-22 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 48/68] cachefiles: Implement backing file wrangling David Howells
2021-12-22 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 49/68] cachefiles: Implement begin and end I/O operation David Howells
2021-12-22 23:26 ` [PATCH v4 50/68] cachefiles: Implement cookie resize for truncate David Howells
2021-12-22 23:27 ` [PATCH v4 51/68] cachefiles: Implement the I/O routines David Howells
2021-12-22 23:27 ` [PATCH v4 52/68] fscache, cachefiles: Store the volume coherency data David Howells
2021-12-22 23:27 ` [PATCH v4 53/68] cachefiles: Allow cachefiles to actually function David Howells
2021-12-22 23:27 ` [PATCH v4 54/68] fscache, cachefiles: Display stats of no-space events David Howells
2021-12-22 23:27 ` [PATCH v4 55/68] fscache, cachefiles: Display stat of culling events David Howells
2021-12-22 23:28 ` [PATCH v4 56/68] afs: Convert afs to use the new fscache API David Howells
2021-12-22 23:28 ` [PATCH v4 57/68] afs: Copy local writes to the cache when writing to the server David Howells
2021-12-22 23:28 ` [PATCH v4 58/68] afs: Skip truncation on the server of data we haven't written yet David Howells
2021-12-22 23:28 ` [PATCH v4 59/68] 9p: Use fscache indexing rewrite and reenable caching David Howells
2021-12-22 23:29 ` [PATCH v4 60/68] 9p: Copy local writes to the cache when writing to the server David Howells
2021-12-22 23:29 ` [PATCH v4 61/68] nfs: Convert to new fscache volume/cookie API David Howells
2021-12-22 23:29 ` [PATCH v4 62/68] nfs: Implement cache I/O by accessing the cache directly David Howells
2021-12-22 23:29 ` [PATCH v4 63/68] cifs: Support fscache indexing rewrite (untested) David Howells
2021-12-22 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 64/68] ceph: conversion to new fscache API David Howells
2021-12-22 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 65/68] ceph: add fscache writeback support David Howells
2021-12-22 23:30 ` [PATCH v4 66/68] fscache: Rewrite documentation David Howells
2021-12-22 23:31 ` [PATCH v4 67/68] fscache: Add a tracepoint for cookie use/unuse David Howells
2021-12-22 23:31 ` [PATCH v4 68/68] 9p, afs, ceph, cifs, nfs: Use current_is_kswapd() rather than gfpflags_allow_blocking() David Howells
2022-01-04 10:50 ` [PATCH v4 00/68] fscache, cachefiles: Rewrite Jeff Layton
2022-01-04 11:27 ` David Wysochanski
2022-01-06 18:19 ` [Linux-cachefs] " Marc Dionne
2022-01-06 18:29 ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-07 21:52 ` [PATCH v4 63/68] cifs: Support fscache indexing rewrite (untested) David Howells
2022-01-09 15:27   ` Jeff Layton
2022-01-07 22:16 ` [PATCH v5 63/68] cifs: Support fscache indexing rewrite David Howells
2022-01-10 11:21 ` [PATCH v4 00/68] fscache, cachefiles: Rewrite Dominique Martinet
2022-01-12  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 63/68] cifs: Support fscache indexing rewrite David Howells
2022-01-12 21:56 ` [PATCH v6] " David Howells
2022-01-13 16:20 ` David Howells

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