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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/27] add pm_runtime_last_busy_and_autosuspend() helper
Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 21:54:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <32849712.0gtj7BlKY3@vostro.rjw.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140925142758.GB1316@katana>

On Thursday, September 25, 2014 04:27:58 PM Wolfram Sang wrote:
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> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:22:01AM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:27:18PM +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 03:32:19PM -0500, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> > > > > > > OK, I guess this is as good as it gets.
> > > > > > >=20
> > > > > > > What tree would you like it go through?
> > > > > >=20
> > > > > > Do we really need this new helper ? I mean, the very moment when =
> we
> > > > > > decide to implement ->runtime_idle() we will need to get rid of t=
> his
> > > > > > change. I wonder if it's really valid...
> > > > >=20
> > > > > I'm not sure I'm following?  This seems to simply implement what dr=
> ivers
> > > > > have been doing already as one function.  Why would it be invalid t=
> o reduce
> > > > > code duplication?
> > > >=20
> > > > For two reasons:
> > > >=20
> > > > 1) the helper has no inteligence whatsoever. It just calls the same
> > > > functions.
> > > >=20
> > > > 2) the duplication will vanish whenever someone implements
> > > > ->runtime_idle() and have that call pm_runtime_autosuspend() (like PCI
> > > > and USB buses are doing today). This will just be yet another line th=
> at
> > > > needs to change.
> > > >=20
> > > > Frankly though, no strong feelings, I just think it's a commit that
> > > > doesn't bring that any benefits other than looking like one line was
> > > > removed.
> > > and yes that is what it tries to do nothing more nothing less. If in fu=
> ture
> > > there are no users (today we have quite a few), then we can remove the =
> dead
> > > macro, no harm. But that is not the situation today.
> >=20
> > as I said, a commit that's bound to be useless. It's not like you're
> > saving 10 lines of code, it's only one. Replacing two simple lines with
> > a function which takes <joke> almost as many characters to type </joke>.
> >=20
> > IMO, this is pretty useless and I'd rather not see them in the drivers I
> > maintain, sorry.
> 
> It is not a NACK from me; yet from a high-level perspective I agree with
> Felipe.

OK

I'd rather not merge something that driver people don't want to use.

Vinod?

-- 
I speak only for myself.
Rafael J. Wysocki, Intel Open Source Technology Center.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2014-09-25 19:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-24 16:14 [PATCH 00/27] add pm_runtime_last_busy_and_autosuspend() helper Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 01/27] PM: Add helper pm_runtime_last_busy_and_autosuspend() Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 17:54   ` Pavel Machek
2014-09-25  8:00     ` Vinod Koul
2014-09-25  8:13   ` Ulf Hansson
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 02/27] dmaengine: ste_dma: use pm_runtime_last_busy_and_autosuspend helper Vinod Koul
2014-09-25 13:19   ` Linus Walleij
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 03/27] extcon: arizona: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-25  1:05   ` Chanwoo Choi
2014-09-25  8:10   ` Charles Keepax
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 04/27] drm/i915: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 18:35   ` Daniel Vetter
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 05/27] drm/nouveau: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 06/27] drm/radeon: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 20:37   ` Alex Deucher
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 07/27] vga_switcheroo: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 20:37   ` Alex Deucher
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 08/27] i2c: designware: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:14 ` [PATCH 09/27] i2c: omap: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 10/27] i2c: qup: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 11/27] mfd: ab8500-gpadc: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-26  8:38   ` Linus Walleij
2014-10-06 21:40   ` Lee Jones
2014-10-07  7:21     ` Lee Jones
2014-10-07  7:38       ` Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 12/27] mfd: arizona: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-25  8:10   ` Charles Keepax
2014-10-06 21:41   ` Lee Jones
2014-10-07  7:21     ` Lee Jones
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 13/27] mei: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 14/27] mmc: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 15/27] mmc: mmci: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 16/27] mmc: omap_hsmmc: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 17/27] mmc: sdhci-pxav3: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 18/27] mmc: sdhci: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 19/27] NFC: trf7970a: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 20/27] pm2301-charger: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 21/27] spi: omap2-mcspi: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:58   ` Mark Brown
2014-09-24 16:39     ` Vinod Koul
2014-09-25 13:03   ` Mark Brown
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 22/27] spi: orion: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-25 13:03   ` Mark Brown
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 23/27] spi: ti-qspi: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-25 13:04   ` Mark Brown
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 24/27] spi: core: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-25 13:04   ` Mark Brown
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 25/27] tty: serial: omap: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 26/27] usb: musb: omap2430: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 16:15 ` [PATCH 27/27] video: fbdev: " Vinod Koul
2014-09-24 20:28 ` [PATCH 00/27] add pm_runtime_last_busy_and_autosuspend() helper Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-09-25  7:46   ` Vinod Koul
     [not found] ` <20140925142201.GD28045@saruman>
     [not found]   ` <20140925142758.GB1316@katana>
2014-09-25 19:54     ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]

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