From: Eric Snowberg <eric.snowberg@oracle.com> To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> Cc: Nayna <nayna@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, dmitry.kasatkin@gmail.com, jmorris@namei.org, serge@hallyn.com, dhowells@redhat.com, geert@linux-m68k.org, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, nayna@linux.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de, bauerman@linux.ibm.com, mpe@ellerman.id.au, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] ima: uncompressed module appraisal support Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2020 09:57:18 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <330BDFAC-E778-4E9D-A2D2-DD81B745F6AB@oracle.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <1581087096.5585.597.camel@linux.ibm.com> > On Feb 7, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 14:40 -0700, Eric Snowberg wrote: > > <snip> > >> Currently the upstream code will fail if the module is uncompressed. >> If you compress the same module it will load with the current >> upstream code. >> >>> Lastly, there is nothing in these patches that indicate that the >> kernel modules being compressed/uncompressed is related to the >> signature verification. >>> >> >> Basically if you have the following setup: >> >> Kernel built with CONFIG_IMA_ARCH_POLICY or kernel booted with >> module.sig_enforce=1 along with the following ima policy: >> >> appraise func=MODULE_CHECK appraise_type=imasig|modsig > > Enabling CONFIG_IMA_ARCH_POLICY or module.sig_enforce=1 behave totally > differently. CONFIG_IMA_ARCH_POLICY coordinates between the IMA > signature verification and the original module_sig_check() > verification. Either one signature verification method is enabled or > the other, but not both. > > The existing IMA x86 arch policy has not been updated to support > appended signatures. That is not what I’m seeing. Appended signatures mostly work. They just don’t work thru the finit_module system call. > To understand what is happening, we need to analyze each scenario > separately. > > - If CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is configured or enabled on the boot command > line ("module.sig_enforce = 1"), then the IMA arch x86 policy WILL NOT > require an IMA signature. All tests below are without my change x86 booted with module.sig_enforce=1 empty ima policy $ cat /sys/kernel/security/ima/policy $ insmod ./foo.ko.xz <— loads ok $ rmmod foo $ unxz ./foo.ko.xz $ insmod ./foo.ko <— loads ok $ rmmod foo add in module appraisal $ echo "appraise func=MODULE_CHECK appraise_type=imasig|modsig" > /sys/kernel/security/ima/policy $ insmod ./foo.ko.xz <— loads ok $ rmmod foo $ insmod ./foo.ko insmod: ERROR: could not insert module ./foo.ko: Permission denied last entry from audit log: type=INTEGRITY_DATA msg=audit(1581089373.076:83): pid=2874 uid=0 auid=0 ses=1 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 op=appraise_data cause=invalid-signature comm="insmod" name="/root/keys/modules/foo.ko" dev="dm-0" ino=10918365 res=0^]UID="root" AUID=“root" This is because modsig_verify() will be called from within ima_appraise_measurement(), since try_modsig is true. Then modsig_verify() will return INTEGRITY_FAIL. If I build with CONFIG_IMA_ARCH_POLICY & CONFIG_MODULE_SIG all tests work the same above, I just don’t have to add module.sig_enforce=1 when I boot. Adding my change will allow foo.ko to load above when “|modsig” is added, since it will now evaluate the module. Without my change the “imsig|modsig” is true for compressed, but the policy is really “imasig&modsig” for uncompressed. > - If CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is NOT configured or enabled on the boot > command line, then the IMA arch x86 policy WILL require an IMA > signature. Agreed > - If CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is configured or enabled on the boot command > line, the IMA arch x86 policy is not configured, and the above policy > rule is defined, an appended signature will be verified by both IMA > and module_sig_check(). I think this is the same as what I have done above? >> If you have a module foo.ko that contains a valid appended signature >> but is not ima signed, it will fail to load. > > That would only happen in the second scenario or in the last scenario > if the key is not found. > >> Now if the end user simply compresses the same foo.ko, making it >> foo.ko.xz. The module will load. > > This implies that CONFIG_MODULE_SIG is configured or enabled on the > boot command line, like the first scenario described above, or in the > last scenario and the key is found. >> Modules can be loaded thru two different syscalls, finit_module and >> init_module. The changes added in [1] work if you use the >> init_module syscall. My change adds support when the finit_module >> syscall gets used instead. > > With the IMA arch x86 policy, without CONFIG_MODULE_SIG configured or > enabled on the boot command line, IMA will prevent the init_module() > syscall. This is intentional. Agreed > Your second patch (2/2) changes the arch x86 policy rule to allow > appended signatures. The reason for any other changes needs to be > clearer. I suggest you look at the audit log and kernel messages, as > well as the kexec selftests, to better understand what is happening. > I can add more details. I’m just trying to make it so the end user has the same experience when using the default secure_boot ima policy. I don’t see a point in forcing someone to compress a module to get around security, especially when they have a policy that contains “|modsig”. Let me know how you would like me to move forward. Are you ok with the actual code in my patches, assuming I add a lot more details? Or do you want more analysis here first?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-02-07 16:58 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2020-02-06 16:42 Eric Snowberg 2020-02-06 16:42 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] ima: Implement support for uncompressed module appended signatures Eric Snowberg 2020-02-06 17:07 ` Lakshmi Ramasubramanian 2020-02-06 17:30 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-06 18:05 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-06 19:01 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-06 19:10 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-06 16:42 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] ima: Change default secure_boot policy to include " Eric Snowberg 2020-02-06 20:22 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] ima: uncompressed module appraisal support Nayna 2020-02-06 21:40 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-07 14:51 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-07 16:57 ` Eric Snowberg [this message] 2020-02-07 17:40 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-07 17:49 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-07 18:28 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-07 18:45 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-07 18:54 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-07 21:38 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-08 23:43 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-10 16:34 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-10 17:09 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-10 19:24 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-10 20:33 ` Mimi Zohar 2020-02-11 17:33 ` Eric Snowberg 2020-02-12 14:04 ` Nayna 2020-02-13 15:32 ` Eric Snowberg
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