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From: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, vbendeb@chromium.org,
	groeck@chromium.org, bleung@chromium.org, dtor@chromium.org,
	gwendal@chromium.org, andy@infradead.org,
	Collabora Kernel ML <kernel@collabora.com>,
	Ayman Bagabas <ayman.bagabas@gmail.com>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	Jeremy Soller <jeremy@system76.com>,
	Mattias Jacobsson <2pi@mok.nu>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>,
	Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@linux.intel.com>,
	Yauhen Kharuzhy <jekhor@gmail.com>,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] platform: x86: Add ACPI driver for ChromeOS
Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:08:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3444110c-d6c0-16df-9b5d-12578ed442c5@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200324164956.GE2518746@kroah.com>

Hi Greg,

On 24/3/20 17:49, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 05:31:10PM +0100, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> Many thanks for your quick answer, some comments below.
>>
>> On 22/3/20 12:10, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>>> On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 10:43:34AM +0100, Enric Balletbo i Serra wrote:
>>>> This driver attaches to the ChromeOS ACPI device and then exports the values
>>>> reported by the ACPI in a sysfs directory. The ACPI values are presented in
>>>> the string form (numbers as decimal values) or binary blobs, and can be
>>>> accessed as the contents of the appropriate read only files in the sysfs
>>>> directory tree originating in /sys/devices/platform/chromeos_acpi.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>
>>>
>>> What is wrong with the "default" ACPI sysfs access?  Why do you need a
>>> special driver just for this specific ACPI firmware?
>>>
>>
>> Please correct me if I am wrong, as I'm not an ACPI expert and I probably have
>> some ACPI leaks and misunderstandings.
>>
>> What is exporting this driver is the attributes for the non-default Chromebook
>> specific MLST ACPI method. Hence, I assumed we needed a special driver to expose
>> these values that can't be done using "default" ACPI sysfs. Note that these
>> attributes are dynamically created and are different between Chromebooks so need
>> some parsing.
>>
>> I didn't find a "standard" way to expose these attributes to userspace, so,
>> please kindly point me to one if there is one.
> 
> Are you sure they aren't already there under /sys/firmware/acpi/?  I
> thought all tables and methods were exported there with no need to do
> anything special.
> 

That's the first I did when I started to forward port this patch from chromeos
kernel to mainline.

On my system I get:

/sys/firmware/acpi/tables#
APIC  DSDT  FACP  FACS  HPET  MCFG  SSDT  data  dynamic

(data and dynamic are empty directories)

I quickly concluded (maybe wrong) that as there is no a MLST entry it was not
exported, but maybe one of those already contains the info? Or, should I expect
a MLST entry here?

> What makes these attributes "special" from any other ACPI method?
> 

I can't answer this question right now. I need to investigate more I guess ;-)

Thanks again for your answer,
Enric

>>>> +static int __init chromeos_acpi_init(void)
>>>> +{
>>>> +	int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> +	chromeos_acpi.pdev = platform_device_register_simple("chromeos_acpi",
>>>> +						PLATFORM_DEVID_NONE, NULL, 0);
>>>> +	if (IS_ERR(chromeos_acpi.pdev)) {
>>>> +		pr_err("unable to register chromeos_acpi platform device\n");
>>>> +		return PTR_ERR(chromeos_acpi.pdev);
>>>> +	}
>>>
>>> Only use platform devices and drivers for things that are actually
>>> platform devices and drivers.  That's not what this is, it is an ACPI
>>> device and driver.  Don't abuse the platform interface please.
>>>
>>
>> Ok. The purpose was to not break ChromeOS userspace since is looking for the
>> attributes inside /sys/devices/platform/chromeos_acpi. Not a good reason, I
>> know, and I assume we will need to change userspace instead, and convert this to
>> a ACPI device and driver only, right?
> 
> How can any userspace be looking for anything that hasn't been submitted
> before?  That's nothing to worry about, we don't have to support things
> like that :)
> 
>> I'll investigate the different places in userspace where this is used and see
>> how difficult it is to do the changes.
> 
> Look at /sys/firmware/acpi/ first please.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-24 17:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-22  9:43 [PATCH v2] platform: x86: Add ACPI driver for ChromeOS Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-03-22 11:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-24 16:31   ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-03-24 16:49     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-24 17:08       ` Enric Balletbo i Serra [this message]
2020-03-24 17:16         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-03-24 17:20         ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2020-03-25 20:34           ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-03-25 21:41             ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2020-03-25 21:54               ` Enric Balletbo i Serra
2020-03-25 22:38                 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2020-03-22 15:21 ` Srinivas Pandruvada
2020-03-24 16:36   ` Enric Balletbo i Serra

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