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From: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>, Ben Collins <bcollins@debian.org>
Cc: davidel@xmailserver.org, davem@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 17:38:45 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <35240000.1056760723@[10.10.2.4]> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030627162527.714091ce.akpm@digeo.com>

> I also.  The bug database tries to convert the traditional many<->many
> debugging process into a one<->one process.  This surely results in a
> lower cleanup rate.

I think your suggestion of sending new bugs out to LKML has made a big
dent in the one<->one problem already. Replacing all the default owner 
fields with mailing lists (either existing ones or new ones) instead of 
individuals would be another step in that direction, though there may
be a few hurdles to deal with on the way to that.

Yes, we probably also need an "email back in" interface as we've 
discussed before to take it up to many-many.

> It is nice to have a record.  But bugzilla is not a comfortable or
> productive environment within which to drill down into and fix problems.

OK ... But I'd rather try to fix it than to throw the baby out with the 
bath water. I don't believe it's "unfixable" - the concept of tracking
bugs / problems and making sure they're closed out still seems sound to me.

As an example, I've seen several examples already where I've pestered 
people about bugs that already had patches attatched to them that resulted 
in "oh, yeah, I forgot to actually submit that", and it's got fixes back 
into mainline. I find it somewhat hard to believe that just about every
other big project (including open source ones) uses some form of bug 
tracking system, and yet Linux is somehow magically different ;-)

M.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-06-28  0:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-27  5:30 networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org David S. Miller
2003-06-27  5:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27  5:47   ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27  7:59     ` Matti Aarnio
2003-06-27  8:00       ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 15:00       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 14:34     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 14:56       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 21:37         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 21:54           ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 21:54             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:15               ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 22:19                 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:36                   ` Ben Greear
2003-06-28  0:00                     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:15                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  0:32                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:19                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:27                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28 19:20                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29  0:40                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-06-29  0:44                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 23:08                   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:21                     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 19:19                       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 22:03                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 23:15                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 23:20                             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 23:46                               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-12 17:07                           ` Jan Rychter
2003-07-13  4:15                             ` Greg KH
2003-07-14 20:25                               ` USB bugs (was: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org) Jan Rychter
     [not found]                                 ` <20030714230236.GA7195@kroah.com>
2003-07-15 20:24                                   ` Jan Rychter
2003-07-13  5:22                             ` networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org David S. Miller
2003-07-13  5:42                               ` Jan Rychter
2003-06-27 22:02           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 21:31             ` Ben Collins
2003-06-27 23:25               ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-27 22:30                 ` Ben Collins
2003-06-28  0:32                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28 19:26                     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:38                 ` Martin J. Bligh [this message]
2003-06-28  1:14                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-28  2:13                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  2:35                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-28  6:08                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  3:27                       ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-27 22:02             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:11               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 22:13                 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 18:50     ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 21:44       ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:47         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 22:53           ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:44             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:09           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 23:04         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:19           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 21:15           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 21:45             ` Andries Brouwer
2003-06-29 21:51               ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 22:49                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-06-29 23:21                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-29 22:07             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29 22:13               ` David S. Miller
2003-06-30  2:35                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-20 16:46                   ` Petr Baudis
2003-06-27 15:25 John Bradford
2003-06-27 16:18 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-06-28  8:00 John Bradford
2003-06-28  8:10 John Bradford
2003-06-28 22:37 John Bradford
2003-06-29 22:28 John Bradford

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