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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@mandrakesoft.com>
To: kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page (Updated as of 2.4.0-test10)
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2000 16:29:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A032E32.39E7B151@mandrakesoft.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200011031937.WAA10753@ms2.inr.ac.ru>

kuznet@ms2.inr.ac.ru wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> > that does hardware register access without protecting against interrupts
> > or checking if the interface is up.
> 
> This issue is not that issue. It is separate issue and in fact
> it is private problem of driver and its author, what is safe,
> what is not safe.
> 
> F.e. I see no cathastrophe even if MII registers are accessed without
> any protections. Diag utilities do this from user space. 8)8)

It depends on the hardware...  For the ioctl-only case, you are
correct.  rtnl_lock protects us there.  But when the timer and ioctl
both call mdio_xxx, you need SMP protection, otherwise you corrupt the
multi-step MDIO read/write found in many drivers.

IMNSHO the timer routines found in net drivers should all be converted
to kernel threads.  There are too many limitations placed on you by
timers.


> > de4x5 is probably also buggy in regard to this.
> 
> de4x5 is hopeless. I added nice comment in softnet to it.
> Unfortunately it was lost. 8)
> 
> Andi, neither you nor me nor Alan nor anyone are able to audit
> all this unnevessarily overcomplicated code. It was buggy, is buggy
> and will be buggy. It is inavoidable, as soon as you have hundreds
> of drivers.

de4x5 is becoming EISA-only in 2.5.x too, since its PCI support is
duplicated now in tulip driver.

	Jeff


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  reply	other threads:[~2000-11-03 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20001103202911.A2979@gruyere.muc.suse.de>
2000-11-03 19:37 ` Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page (Updated as of 2.4.0-test10) kuznet
2000-11-03 21:29   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2000-11-04 19:41     ` kuznet
2000-11-06  9:10       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 17:45         ` kuznet
2000-11-08 17:48     ` tulip vs. de4x5 (was Re: Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page ...) Jim Schutt
2000-11-03 22:01   ` Linux 2.4 Status / TODO page (Updated as of 2.4.0-test10) Bill Wendling
2000-11-03 22:30     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 23:41       ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-03 23:57         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  9:04           ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-07  1:48           ` David C. Davies
2001-01-07  2:14           ` David C. Davies
2000-11-04  0:19     ` Alan Cox
2000-11-03 15:09 tytso
2000-11-03 15:53 ` Alan Cox
2000-11-03 16:55   ` Andi Kleen
2000-11-03 19:03     ` kuznet
2000-11-03 21:03   ` David Ford
2000-11-03 21:10     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 21:51       ` David Ford
2000-11-04  1:27         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  0:14       ` Alan Cox
2000-11-04  1:24         ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  2:37         ` David Ford
2000-11-07 20:21     ` tytso
2000-11-07 19:23       ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 21:37   ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-06 19:28     ` Paul Gortmaker
2000-11-07 20:17   ` tytso
2000-11-07 19:21     ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-03 16:09 ` Philipp Rumpf
2000-11-03 22:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2000-11-04  2:32   ` David Ford
2000-11-04 13:12   ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2000-11-07 20:40   ` tytso
2000-11-04  1:10 ` James Simmons
2000-11-04  1:38   ` Keith Owens
2000-11-11 22:47   ` tytso
2000-11-04 10:43 ` Keith Owens
2000-11-04 20:34   ` Russell King
2000-11-05 23:15   ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-06  0:47     ` Keith Owens
2000-11-06  0:54       ` David Woodhouse
2000-11-07 20:36 ` tytso

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