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From: David Balazic <david.balazic@uni-mb.si>
To: "Dr. Kelsey Hudson" <kernel@blackhole.compendium-tech.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order?
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:21:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3A657212.14DCDD17@uni-mb.si> (raw)

Dr. Kelsey Hudson wrote :
> On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, Michael Meissner wrote:
> > I'm an end-user, and I have 3 scsi-adapters of two different brands in my 
> > system. Many of the people using Linux in high end things like servers, 
> > etc. will have multiple scsi controlers. People are using Linux in lots of 
> > things from small embedded devices to large systems, and Linux needs to address 
> > needs in every area. 
> 
> see, thats where you and i disagree...I wouldn't call you an end user
> based upon that fact. End users (IMO) are those people who sit back and
> buy a PC and expect it to Just Work(tm). Servers, embedded devices, et al
> (read: high-end applications) do not equate to end-user applications,
> IMNSHO. Besides, *most* (and I say most because I've seen a sharp decline
> in the mentality of Linux users as of late) people who are going to manage
> a high-scale server are going to know what the hell they are doing in the 
> first place, so I highly doubt that the end-user argument holds merit
> against this.
> 
> Linux, whether you like it or not, is a full-scale UNIX. It takes a good
> (read: talented) system administrator to manage any UNIX properly...A good
> sysadmin reads documentation....Seems clear enough to me. But, then again,   
> this is coming from an experienced sysadmin so my opinion *must* be
> biased.

Recently my neighbor ( in no way a high-end user ) called me over,
because his Linux setup wouldn't boot anymore. All he did was to add
( or maybe remove, can remember now ) a partition on his IDE disk.
Linux assigned different device nodes to the partition as it did before
the change, so it couldn't find its root-fs.

The same problem exists with _all_ devices that are assigned in the
"order I found them today" , like audio devices , network devices etc...

BTW, where is the scsihosts= kernel parameter documented ?

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David Balazic
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             reply	other threads:[~2001-01-17 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 89+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-17 10:21 David Balazic [this message]
2001-01-17 10:28 ` Linux not adhering to BIOS Drive boot order? Boszormenyi Zoltan
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-18 16:55 David Balazic
2001-01-18 19:49 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 16:36 Andries.Brouwer
2001-01-18 11:01 David Balazic
2001-01-18 11:35 ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18 13:01   ` Xavier Bestel
2001-01-18 14:03     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-17 11:04 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:56 David Balazic
2001-01-17 10:48 David Balazic
2001-01-17 23:23 ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18 10:14   ` David Balazic
2001-01-16 22:54 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:14 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:30 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 21:18   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 15:33   ` Mike Porter
2001-01-17 16:16     ` James Bottomley
2001-01-17 17:07       ` Craig Ruff
2001-01-18 12:50       ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 17:59         ` idalton
2001-01-18 18:14           ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-18 20:53           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-18 22:55             ` David Weinehall
2001-01-16 17:39 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:58 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 21:11   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17  9:38     ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-17  9:55       ` Jeff Garzik
2001-01-17 10:19         ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 10:02       ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-19  1:17         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-17 10:12       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-17 23:19         ` Russell King
2001-01-17 19:50 ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:43   ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:14     ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  0:39       ` Andreas Dilger
2001-01-18  0:59         ` Tim Fletcher
2001-01-18  9:41         ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-16 17:30 Bryan Henderson
2001-01-16 17:04 David Balazic
     [not found] <Venkateshr@ami.com>
2001-01-16 16:56 ` Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 19:52   ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:51 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:09 ` Honza Pazdziora
2001-01-16 16:46 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:43 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 20:01 ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 20:37   ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 21:01     ` Andi Kleen
2001-01-16 21:23       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-16 23:32     ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-17  0:05       ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17  0:42       ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17  2:14         ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-17 17:22           ` Michael Meissner
2001-01-17 18:41         ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-17  9:45       ` Ishikawa
2001-01-17 15:45         ` J . A . Magallon
2001-01-16 23:51     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-17 19:22   ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 20:32     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-17 20:46       ` Werner Almesberger
2001-01-17 21:26     ` Dr. Kelsey Hudson
2001-01-16 16:35 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 17:04 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 17:24   ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 18:22   ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 19:18     ` Matthew D. Pitts
2001-01-16 19:54     ` Christopher Friesen
2001-01-16 21:04     ` Timur Tabi
2001-01-16 22:51 ` Peter Samuelson
2001-01-16 16:31 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:53 ` Eddie Williams
2001-01-16 19:48 ` John Summerfield
2001-01-16 16:19 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:23 ` Florent Cueto
2001-01-16 16:31 ` Brian Gerst
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-16 15:49 Venkatesh Ramamurthy
2001-01-16 16:06 ` David Woodhouse
2001-01-16 16:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2001-01-16 16:40 ` Matthias Andree
2001-01-16 16:45 ` Douglas Gilbert
2001-01-16 17:38 ` Malahal Rao Naineni

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