From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:48:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:48:41 -0400 Received: from mailgw.prontomail.com ([216.163.180.10]:16468 "EHLO c0mailgw04.prontomail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:48:25 -0400 Message-ID: <3ADB9245.43054124@mvista.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:45:57 -0700 From: george anzinger Organization: Monta Vista Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20b i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Salisbury CC: Mark Salisbury , Jamie Lokier , Ben Greear , Horst von Brand , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, high-res-timers-discourse@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: No 100 HZ timer! In-Reply-To: <200104131205.f3DC5KV11393@sleipnir.valparaiso.cl> <3ADA60C6.1593A2BF@candelatech.com> <20010416044630.A18776@pcep-jamie.cern.ch> <0104160841431V.01893@pc-eng24.mc.com> <3ADB45C0.E3F32257@mvista.com> <001801c0c6d1$0528d340$6501a8c0@gonar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mark Salisbury wrote: > > > Given a system speed, there is a repeating timer rate which will consume > > 100% of the system in handling the timer interrupts. An attempt will > > be made to detect this rate and adjust the timer to prevent system > > lockup. This adjustment will look like timer overruns to the user > > (i.e. we will take a percent of the interrupts and record the untaken > > interrupts as overruns) > > just at first blush, there are some things in general but I need to read > this again and more closely.... > > but, with POSIX timers, there is a nifty little restriction/protection built > into the spec regarding the re-insertion of short interval repeating timers. > that is: a repeating timer will not be re-inserted until AFTER the > associated signal handler has been handled. Actually what it says is: "Only a single signal shall be queued to the process for a given timer at any point in time. When a timer for which a signal is still pending expires, no signal shall be queued, and a timer overrun shall occur." It then goes on to talk about the overrun count and how it is to be managed. What I am suggesting is that the system should detect when these interrupts would come so fast as to stall the system and just set up a percent of them while bumping the overrun count as if they had all occured. George > > this has some interesting consequences for signal handling and signal > delivery implementations, but importantly, it ensures that even a flood of > POSIX timers with very short repeat intervals will be handled cleanly. > > I will get more detailed comments to you tomorrow. > > Mark Salisbury > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/