From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:04:15 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:04:05 -0400 Received: from tmhoyle.gotadsl.co.uk ([195.149.46.162]:46098 "HELO mail.cvsnt.org") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 13:03:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3B30D776.5090902@magenta-netlogic.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 18:03:50 +0100 From: Tony Hoyle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5-ac13 i686; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010618 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Davide Libenzi Cc: Russell Leighton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ben Greear Subject: Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Davide Libenzi wrote: > 1) HW is cheaper than software engineers time Compared to E1000s??? You must be talking about some *really* expensive engineers! > 2) to find Java developers is easier than to find C developers Depends on where you are in the world. It's certainly not true here (everyone knows C/C++... Haven't had a java developer apply for a job in months). > 3) the ETA of the same project developed in Java is shorter than the same > project done in C Depends on the developers. Good developers can churn out the same project to roughly the same timescale in any language (except possibly assembly). Java is useful if you need the cross platform bit & the target users aren't technically savvy enough to recompile. For an in-house app where you control the hardware you'd be better off using a C/C++/RAD & doing it native. Tony (Just came back from a .NET conference... MS are currently rewriting all their apps in bytecode... whoopee... They're even porting *games* to run on it. I can see it now 'MS Flight Simulator .NET' (Requires quad Pentium 4 1.6Ghz minimum) :-o ) Tony -- "Two weeks before due date, the programmers work 22 hour days cobbling an application from... (apparently) one programmer bashing his face into the keyboard." -- Dilbert tony@hoyle.geek http://www.tony.hoyle.geek tmh@nothing-on.tv http://www.nothing-on.tv