From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:24:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:23:59 -0400 Received: from tmhoyle.gotadsl.co.uk ([195.149.46.162]:30983 "HELO mail.cvsnt.org") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 16:23:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3B310650.4050408@magenta-netlogic.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 21:23:44 +0100 From: Tony Hoyle User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.5-ac13 i686; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010618 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: landley@webofficenow.com Cc: Davide Libenzi , Russell Leighton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ben Greear Subject: Re: [OT] Threads, inelegance, and Java In-Reply-To: <3B30D776.5090902@magenta-netlogic.com> <01062011105507.00776@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Rob Landley wrote: > So how exactly DOES MS expect to stop the Linux folks from reverse > engineering .NET apps? Patents? Giving up on the client side and moving to > an ASP business model (toe to toe with AOL)? Constant gratuitous > compatability changes to try to prevent all those nasty GPL viruses from > evolving an immunity to their new proprietary drug? (Without, of course, > being obvious enough to trigger a third antitrust trial after the 1995 and > 1998 ones...) They probably *want* people to port the .NET VM to Linux. You should have seen their diagrams... Lots of pretty boxes saying how the various parts of .NET work and a small greyed out area at the bottom saying 'Win32'. They kept saying 'Cross platform' and 'Open standards' (the VM* has been submitted to ECMA apparently).... Of course when that happens everyone will continue using MS software, but on top of their chosen OS. MS make more $$$ (we keep buying Exchange, Office, etc. but running them on Linux) and they are happy. MS Exchange runs on AS400/Solaris/etc., so it becomes an 'Enterprise' solution that PHBs throughout the world inflict on us, and MS make even *more* $$$. Tony * aka. 'Common Language Runtime' -- "Two weeks before due date, the programmers work 22 hour days cobbling an application from... (apparently) one programmer bashing his face into the keyboard." -- Dilbert tony@hoyle.geek http://www.tony.hoyle.geek tmh@nothing-on.tv http://www.nothing-on.tv