From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:31:27 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:31:17 -0400 Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.16]:21261 "EHLO mailout00.sul.t-online.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 14:31:14 -0400 Message-ID: <3B83FAC7.1B727294@t-online.de> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 20:32:39 +0200 From: Gunther.Mayer@t-online.de (Gunther Mayer) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.6-ac5 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alan Cox CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: yenta_socket hangs sager laptop in kernel 2.4.6-> PNPBIOS life saver In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Alan Cox wrote: > > > Try -ac Kernels with integrated PNPBIOS and "lspnp -v", > > then you will see your "motherboard resources". No magic. > > Except on the intel boards where your machine crashes, the vaio's where > some queries corrupt memory, the boxes where an interrupt during a pnpbios > call crashes the box, the machines where pnpbios called from both cpus at > the same time is a crash case, the wonderful weird tiny races on some boxes > that use smm traps and fail if random undefined things occur between the > two out instructions... So call it only once early on boot (in real mode) and save the table for later use (we don't need the fancy features ...) ? > > Alan, 2.4 would largely benefit from PNPBIOS, do you plan > > to submit this to LT (probably with the proposed life saver fix) ? > > Experience is that PnpBIOS services are so astoundingly buggy in many > bioses that they are probably not worth the risk. Ie more boxes break by > calling pnpbios than by assuming the vendor used a sane resource layout. How are these bugs handled by Windows ? Must we only mimick the Windows call layout to enter bios-writer's well tested code path ? > Before PnPBIOS can go mainstream we'd have to generate a detailed list > of buggy bios signatures