From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:21:31 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:21:30 -0400 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:60939 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 12 May 2002 16:21:29 -0400 Message-ID: <3CDECE75.2000809@mandrakesoft.com> Date: Sun, 12 May 2002 16:20:05 -0400 From: Jeff Garzik User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.9) Gecko/00200203 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Linus Torvalds CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Changelogs on kernel.org In-Reply-To: <20020512010709.7a973fac.spyro@armlinux.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds wrote: >The 2.4.x changelogs seem to be done with my "release" scripts, but >additionally they don't have the same kind of detailed information that >the 2.5.x kernels have, and yes, the result is fairly ugly. > >What are peoples opinion about the "full" changelog format that v2.5.x >kernels have? Should we sort that too by author? > Sorting might help a tiny bit... I thought about this, when I saw the 2.4.x changelogs. Typical GNU projects seem to have a pretty decent system going -- there is a detailed ChangeLog, and an abbreviated high level summary NEWS, for each release. So IMO a good solution would not be to change the format of the BK changelogs, but to supplement them with the type of summary that looks like the "old Linus" changelogs, i.e. a summary generated by a human: Martin Dalecki - IDE updates Al Viro - VFS updates Andi Kleen - x86-64 update ... The central complaint about BK changelogs seems to be that they are too verbose for a quick scan of what a new kernel version contains. (while at the same time lauding the additional information BK provides over the old changelogs) Marcelo gave it a good shot, by (it appears) generating a summary by taking the first line of each cset. The better solution would be a human-generated NEWS file. Jeff