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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@digeo.com>
To: Daniel Phillips <phillips@arcor.de>
Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@conectiva.com.br>,
	trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no, Chuck Lever <cel@citi.umich.edu>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: invalidate_inode_pages in 2.5.32/3
Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 15:03:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3D7D1AB4.B465ABE8@digeo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E17oWKH-0006uw-00@starship

Daniel Phillips wrote:
> 
> > I'm very unkeen about using the inaccurate invalidate_inode_pages
> > for anything which matters, really.   And the consistency of pagecache
> > data matters.
> >
> > NFS should be using something stronger.  And that's basically
> > vmtruncate() without the i_size manipulation.
> 
> Yes, that looks good.  Semantics are basically "and don't come back
> until every damm page is gone" which is enforced by the requirement
> that we hold the mapping->page_lock though one entire scan of the
> truncated region.  (Yes, I remember sweating this one out a year
> or two ago so it doesn't eat 100% CPU on regular occasions.)
> 
> So, specifically, we want:
> 
> void invalidate_inode_pages(struct inode *inode)
> {
>         truncate_inode_pages(mapping, 0);
> }
> 
> Is it any harder than that?

Pretty much - need to leave i_size where it was.  But there are
apparently reasons why NFS cannot sleepingly lock pages in this particular
context.

> By the way, now that we're all happy with the radix tree, we might
> as well just go traverse that instead of all the mapping->*_pages.
> (Not that I'm seriously suggesting rocking the boat that way just
> now, but it might yield some interesting de-crufting possibilities.)

Oh absolutely.

 unsigned long radix_tree_gang_lookup(void **pointers,
		unsiged long starting_from_here, unsigned long this_many);

could be used nicely in readahead, drop_behind, truncate, invalidate
and invalidate2.  But to use it in writeback (desirable) we would need
additional metadata in radix_tree_node.  One bit per page, which means
"this page is dirty" or "this subtree has dirty pages".

I keep saying this in the hope that someone will take pity and write it.

> ...
> Now, what is this invalidate_inode_pages2 seepage about?  Called from
> one place.  Sheesh.

heh.  We still do have some O_DIRECT/pagecache coherency problems.

  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-09 21:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-05 14:25 invalidate_inode_pages in 2.5.32/3 Chuck Lever
2002-09-05 18:27 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 18:53   ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-05 19:17     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 20:00       ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 20:15         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 20:27           ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 20:37             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 20:51               ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 21:12                 ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 21:31                   ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-05 22:19                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06  0:48                       ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-06  1:08                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-06  6:49                           ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-07  8:37                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 16:09                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-07 17:02                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-07  8:24                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 16:06                         ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 21:08                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 21:36                             ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 22:12                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 18:47                         ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-07 23:09                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-09 21:44                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:03                               ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2002-09-09 22:19                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 22:32                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-10 16:57                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-09 23:51                                   ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-10  1:07                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 15:09                                       ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-10 16:13                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-10 19:04                                           ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-10 20:52                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11  0:07                                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-11  0:27                                                 ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11  0:38                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-11  0:53                                                     ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11  1:49                                                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-11  2:14                                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-11 16:18                                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-11 17:14                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 19:06                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 22:05                                         ` Urban Widmark
2002-09-12 22:21                                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 22:30                                             ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-12 22:43                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 22:51                                               ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 23:05                                                 ` Randy.Dunlap
2002-09-12 23:23                                                 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-12 23:53                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-23 16:38                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-23 17:16                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-23 18:57                                                   ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-23 20:41                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-23 20:49                                                       ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-23 22:43                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-24  5:09                                                           ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-24 16:40                                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-23 19:13                                                   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13  4:19                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-13  4:52                                               ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-14  9:58                                             ` Urban Widmark
2002-09-12 13:04                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2002-09-12 18:21                                       ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 21:15                                         ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-12 21:38                                           ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-12 21:52                                             ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-05 22:01                   ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-05 22:23                     ` Andrew Morton
2002-09-05 21:41           ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-06  9:35     ` Helge Hafting
2002-09-06 16:16       ` Chuck Lever
2002-09-07  8:01   ` Daniel Phillips
2002-09-07 10:01     ` Daniel Phillips

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