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From: Christian Brauner <christian@brauner.io>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
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	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
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	David Drysdale <drysdale@google.com>,
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	Aleksa Sarai <asarai@suse.de>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 5/6] binfmt_*: scope path resolution of interpreters
Date: Sat, 11 May 2019 19:48:47 +0200
Message-ID: <3DFB2DAE-C66F-427D-BF0A-EB31DC590B4D@brauner.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wgo-X9pDbVf8khfDsgEKn3wSvLJkB890OxHL+42Hosypw@mail.gmail.com>

On May 11, 2019 7:43:44 PM GMT+02:00, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
>On Sat, May 11, 2019 at 1:31 PM Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yup, I've dropped the patch for the next version. (To be honest, I'm
>not
>> sure why I included any of the other flags -- the only one that
>would've
>> been necessary to deal with CVE-2019-5736 was AT_NO_MAGICLINKS.)
>
>I do wonder if we could try to just set AT_NO_MAGICLINKS
>unconditionally for execve() (and certainly for the suid case).
>
>I'd rather try to do these things across the board, than have "suid
>binaries are treated specially" if at all possible.
>
>The main use case for having /proc/<pid>/exe thing is for finding open
>file descriptors, and for 'ps' kind of use, or to find the startup
>directory when people don't populate the execve() environment fully
>(ie "readlink(/proc/self/exe)" is afaik pretty common.
>
>Sadly, googling for
>
>    execve /proc/self/exe
>
>does actually find hits, including one that implies that chrome does
>exactly that.  So it might not be possible.
>
>Somewhat odd, but it does just confirm the whole "users will at some
>point do everything in their power to use every odd special case,
>intended or not".
>
>                  Linus

Sadly I have to admit that we are using this.
Also, execveat on glibc is implemented via
/proc/self/fd/<nr> on kernels that do not
have a proper execveat.
See fexecve...

Christian

  reply index

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-06 16:54 [PATCH v6 0/6] namei: resolveat(2) path resolution restriction API Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] namei: split out nd->dfd handling to dirfd_path_init Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] namei: O_BENEATH-style path resolution flags Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] namei: LOOKUP_IN_ROOT: chroot-like path resolution Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 4/6] namei: aggressively check for nd->root escape on ".." resolution Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] binfmt_*: scope path resolution of interpreters Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 18:37   ` Jann Horn
2019-05-06 19:17     ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-06 23:41       ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-08  0:54       ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-10 20:41       ` Jann Horn
2019-05-10 21:20         ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-10 22:55           ` Jann Horn
2019-05-10 23:36             ` Christian Brauner
2019-05-11 15:49               ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-11 17:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-11 17:21               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-11 17:26                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-11 17:31                   ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-11 17:43                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-11 17:48                       ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2019-05-11 18:00                       ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-11 22:39                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                   ` <CAHk-=wg3+3GfHsHdB4o78jNiPh_5ShrzxBuTN-Y8EZfiFMhCvw@mail.gmail.com>
2019-05-12 10:19                     ` Christian Brauner
     [not found]                     ` <9CD2B97D-A6BD-43BE-9040-B410D996A195@amacapital.net>
2019-05-12 10:44                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-05-12 13:35                         ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-12 13:38                           ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-12 14:34                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2019-05-11 17:26               ` Aleksa Sarai
2019-05-08  0:38     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-05-10 20:10       ` Jann Horn
2019-05-06 16:54 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] namei: resolveat(2) syscall Aleksa Sarai

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