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From: Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>
To: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@redhat.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Better CLONE_SETTLS support for Hammer
Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 19:52:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E66C5F4.5000106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030305210856.B16093@redhat.com>

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Benjamin LaHaise wrote:

> Instead, 
> making x86-64 TLS support based off of the stack pointer, or even using 
> a fixed per-cpu segment register such that gs:0 holds the pointer to the 
> thread "current" would be better.

Gee, here is somebody who knows about thread APIs and ABIs.  You're
really embarrassing yourself.


> Make the users of threads suffer, not 
> every single application and syscall in the system.

Whether you like it or not, people are using threads.  TLS requires a
thread register even in single-threaded applications.  The mechanism I
proposed would use segments if <4GB addresses can be allocated,
otherwise fall back to prctl(ARCH_SET_FS).  This is about as good as you
can get it.

Remove anything and hammer is the only architecture without good thread
support which undoubtedly makes you happy but almost nobody else.

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-06  3:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-05 18:55 Better CLONE_SETTLS support for Hammer Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-05 19:06 ` Andi Kleen
2003-03-05 19:25   ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-05 21:19     ` Andi Kleen
2003-03-05 19:32   ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-05 21:21     ` Andi Kleen
2003-03-05 23:04       ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-06  1:05         ` Andi Kleen
2003-03-06  3:53           ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-06  4:14           ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-06 10:27             ` Andi Kleen
2003-03-06 18:58               ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-06 19:09                 ` Andi Kleen
2003-03-06  2:08         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-03-06  3:52           ` Ulrich Drepper [this message]
2003-03-06  5:29             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2003-03-06  5:47               ` Ulrich Drepper
2003-03-06  5:33   ` H. Peter Anvin

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