From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:47:35 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:47:35 -0500 Received: from hermine.idb.hist.no ([158.38.50.15]:13576 "HELO hermine.idb.hist.no") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id ; Tue, 11 Mar 2003 07:47:34 -0500 Message-ID: <3E6DDDD2.3050709@aitel.hist.no> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 14:00:02 +0100 From: Helge Hafting Organization: AITeL, HiST User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020623 Debian/1.0.0-0.woody.1 X-Accept-Language: no, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hans Reiser CC: Daniel Phillips , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: [RFC] Improved inode number allocation for HTree References: <11490000.1046367063@[10.10.2.4]> <20030310204146.875D3F0D4D@mx12.arcor-online.net> <3E6D1D25.5000004@namesys.com> <20030311031216.8A31CEFD5F@mx12.arcor-online.net> <3E6DBE3B.8030007@namesys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hans Reiser wrote: > Let's make noatime the default for VFS. > > Daniel Phillips wrote: [...] >> If I were able to design Unix over again, I'd state that if you don't >> lock a directory before traversing it then it's your own fault if >> somebody changes it under you, and I would have provided an interface >> to inform you about your bad luck. Strictly wishful thinking. >> (There, it feels better now.) I'm happy nobody _can_ lock a directory like that. Think of it - unable to create or delete files while some slow-moving program is traversing the directory? Ouch. Plenty of options for DOS attacks too. And how to do "rm *.bak" if rm locks the dir for traversal? Helge Hafting