From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:45:20 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:45:19 -0500 Received: from parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk ([195.92.249.252]:33970 "EHLO www.linux.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:44:45 -0500 Message-ID: <3E7E2D7E.7000406@pobox.com> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 16:56:14 -0500 From: Jeff Garzik Organization: none User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20021213 Debian/1.2.1-2.bunk X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Mares CC: Alan Cox , Stephan von Krawczynski , Pavel Machek , szepe@pinerecords.com, arjanv@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25 References: <20030323193457.GA14750@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> <200303231938.h2NJcAq14927@devserv.devel.redhat.com> <20030323194423.GC14750@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> In-Reply-To: <20030323194423.GC14750@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Martin Mares wrote: > Do you really think that "People should either use vendor kernels or > read LKML and be able to gather the fixes from there themselves" is a > good strategy? Maybe I can make the point another way... TANSTAAFL: There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch. Marcelo is a volunteer, and maintaining the 2.4 kernel is not his full time job. Marcelo isn't beholden to people demanding a kernel release NOW NOW NOW. If you want that type of support, you have to pay for it. I consider my personal obligation as "do my best as time and sanity allows." Demanding of people what they already give freely is a poor way to motivate. Jeff