From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@pobox.com>
To: "Martin J. Bligh" <mbligh@aracnet.com>
Cc: James Bourne <jbourne@mtroyal.ab.ca>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Robert Love <rml@tech9.net>,
Martin Mares <mj@ucw.cz>, Alan Cox <alan@redhat.com>,
Stephan von Krawczynski <skraw@ithnet.com>,
szepe@pinerecords.com, arjanv@redhat.com,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 17:21:16 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E7E335C.2050509@pobox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <920000.1048456387@[10.10.2.4]>
Martin J. Bligh wrote:
> I think this would be valuable .. the other thing that really needs to
> be present is a "common vendor" kernel where changes that are common
> to most distros are merged (eg O(1) scheduler, etc). Personally, I think
> that's what mainline should be doing ... but if other people disagree,
> then I, at least, would see value in a separate tree to do this.
akpm has suggested something like this in the past. I respectfully
disagree.
The 2.4 kernel will not benefit from constant churn of backporting core
kernel changes like a new scheduler. We need to let it settle, simply
get it stable, and concentrate on fixing key problems in 2.6. Otherwise
you will never have a stable 2.4 tree, and it will look suspiciously
more and more like 2.6 as time goes by. Constantly breaking working
configurations and changing core behaviors is _not_ the way to go for 2.4.
I see 2.4 O(1) scheduler and similar features as _pain_ brought on the
vendors by themselves (and their customers).
Surely it is better to concentrate developer time and mindshare on
making 2.6 sane?
Jeff
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-03-23 22:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-03-17 16:04 Ptrace hole / Linux 2.2.25 Alan Cox
2003-03-17 17:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-17 18:20 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 18:23 ` James Bourne
2003-03-17 18:27 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-21 21:17 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 10:00 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-23 13:41 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 15:58 ` Petr Baudis
2003-03-23 19:25 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:30 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:34 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:38 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 19:44 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 19:47 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 19:55 ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 20:13 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:46 ` Henrik Persson
2003-03-23 19:56 ` Martin Mares
2003-03-23 20:08 ` Russell King
2003-03-23 22:26 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 20:10 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:30 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 20:36 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-23 21:20 ` Martin Hermanowski
2003-03-23 21:35 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 21:53 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:21 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2003-03-23 22:29 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:57 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 0:15 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 22:43 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-03-23 22:54 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 23:19 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 3:35 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24 3:54 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2003-03-24 6:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 12:17 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 23:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:45 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 0:07 ` J.A. Magallon
2003-03-24 6:52 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 0:09 ` Christian Axelsson
2003-03-24 20:05 ` aradorlinux
2003-03-23 20:38 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-23 20:51 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 0:51 ` Juan Quintela
2003-03-24 1:29 ` Brian Tinsley
2003-03-23 20:54 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:13 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 21:51 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:14 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-25 11:35 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-25 11:36 ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2003-03-23 20:09 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-23 20:21 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 20:49 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 22:22 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:56 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 21:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-03-24 15:33 ` jlnance
2003-03-23 19:53 ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24 0:08 ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24 0:20 ` James Bourne
2003-03-24 0:37 ` Sven Schuster
2003-03-24 0:50 ` James Bourne
2003-03-24 0:39 ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-24 2:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24 2:57 ` James Bourne
2003-03-24 2:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-24 14:42 ` Dave Jones
2003-03-27 7:47 ` Pavel Machek
2003-03-26 20:30 ` Dave Jones
2003-03-26 20:41 ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-03-26 21:02 ` Jörn Engel
2003-03-27 5:20 ` James Bourne
2003-03-23 19:41 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:34 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-17 18:27 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-03-17 19:23 ` Neale Banks
2003-03-18 18:44 ` James Bourne
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2003-03-17 18:39 ` Ben Pfaff
2003-03-18 1:46 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-19 11:28 mlafon
2003-03-19 20:09 Matthew Grant
2003-03-19 21:34 ` Matthew Grant
[not found] <20030323194012$6886@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323194014$66c3@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323195010$5026@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323195012$6f30@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323200029$737b@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323202005$2a74@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:33 ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 22:24 ` Alan Cox
2003-03-23 21:46 ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 23:05 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20030323200023$1a65@gated-at.bofh.it>
[not found] ` <20030323202014$096a@gated-at.bofh.it>
2003-03-23 20:35 ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-23 20:59 ` Robert Love
2003-03-23 22:38 Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-23 22:53 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-03-23 23:06 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 10:30 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-24 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-03-24 15:40 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-03-24 16:55 ` Stephan von Krawczynski
2003-03-27 14:47 Dr. Greg Wettstein
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