From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S262502AbTDXJeJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 05:34:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S262577AbTDXJeI (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 05:34:08 -0400 Received: from smtp3.cwidc.net ([154.33.63.113]:9687 "EHLO smtp3.cwidc.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S262502AbTDXJeB (ORCPT ); Thu, 24 Apr 2003 05:34:01 -0400 Message-ID: <3EA7B283.4050201@tequila.co.jp> Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:46:43 +0900 From: Clemens Schwaighofer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030401 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk CC: Linus Torvalds , Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: Flame Linus to a crisp! References: <3EA76FFE.5070007@tequila.co.jp> <20030424053950.GV10374@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <20030424053950.GV10374@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.74.1.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 viro@parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk wrote: > On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 02:02:54PM +0900, Clemens Schwaighofer wrote: >>Point for me is, that with a DRM you could 100% verify that foreign >>module Y is 100% from company Z. Or that binary product F is 100% from >>the company and can be trusted to run here or there. > > Excuse me, but I don't get the last part. You know that > F had been built in environment of unspecified degree of security > from source that had been kept in <---> > written by programmers you don't know > who had been hired in conformace with criteria <---> > and released after passing QA of unknown quality (but you can bet > that they had missed some security holes in the past) > under a license that almost certainly disclaims any responsibility. > > Care to explain how does one get from the trust in above to "trusted to run"? I am sorry, I read some other posts that came in after I sent this, one which explains the true status of DRM, which I was not aware of. Seems to me that it is a super flawed system, far from what it should be. Well ... this puts total different weight on the "urge" to put it into the kernel, if it is flawed that much. - -- Clemens Schwaighofer - IT Engineer & System Administration ========================================================== Tequila Japan, 6-17-2 Ginza Chuo-ku, Tokyo 104-8167, JAPAN Tel: +81-(0)3-3545-7703 Fax: +81-(0)3-3545-7343 http://www.tequila.jp ========================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE+p7KCjBz/yQjBxz8RAry9AJ4x/m8NU/YYDSlTNc+WmlcTytNV9gCdEKen 7DeQZU/syw7wNAV+ke8XS9w= =dHj9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----