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From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
To: "David S. Miller" <davem@redhat.com>
Cc: davidel@xmailserver.org, mbligh@aracnet.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-net@vger.kernel.org,
	netdev@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:36:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3EFCC6EE.3020106@candelatech.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030627.151906.102571486.davem@redhat.com>

David S. Miller wrote:
>    From: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
>    Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:15:07 -0700
> 
>    Forcing people to continue to retransmit the same report just pisses
>    people off, and in the end will get you less useful reports than if
>    you had flagged the report as 'please-gimme-more-info'.
> 
> And this is different from patch submission in what way?

It wouldn't bother me to have a list of all patches submitted either,
it would keep folks from re-implementing the same thing from time to
time.  However, the main difference is that having to cary patches
forward is a constant drag on the person with the patch that was not
accepted, so they are constantly aware of how nice it would be to
get it included..thus they may keep trying.

A user with a PCMCIA NIC that reorders packets can get another NIC, so
that bug will never re-transmitted, and it will never get fixed.  What
is worse, new users of that busted NIC will have to re-discover that all
over for themselves, because there is no bug database to search.

> 
>    Perhaps, but it's also possible that you are being a stubborn SOB
>    because you fear change :)
>    
> Absolutely not, in fact I'm daily looking for ways to change how
> I work with people who help me so that I scale better.  And I know
> for sure that a bug datamase with shit that accumulates in it
> that _REQUIRES_ me to do something about it to make it go away
> does not help me scale.
> 
> Bugme was an absolute burdon for me.
> 
> For something to scale, it must continute to operate just as
> efficiently if I were to go away for a few weeks.  The lists have that
> quality, the bug database with owner does not.

So, you'd be happy so long as bugz sent mail to the netdev mailing lists
instead of to you?


-- 
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>       <Ben_Greear AT excite.com>
President of Candela Technologies Inc      http://www.candelatech.com
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-06-27 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-06-27  5:30 networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org David S. Miller
2003-06-27  5:46 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27  5:47   ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27  7:59     ` Matti Aarnio
2003-06-27  8:00       ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 15:00       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 14:34     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 14:56       ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 21:37         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 21:54           ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 21:54             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:15               ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 22:19                 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:36                   ` Ben Greear [this message]
2003-06-28  0:00                     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:15                       ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  0:32                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:19                       ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:27                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28 19:20                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29  0:40                             ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2003-06-29  0:44                             ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 23:08                   ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:21                     ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 19:19                       ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 22:03                         ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 23:15                           ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28 23:20                             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28 23:46                               ` Alan Cox
2003-07-12 17:07                           ` Jan Rychter
2003-07-13  4:15                             ` Greg KH
2003-07-14 20:25                               ` USB bugs (was: networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org) Jan Rychter
     [not found]                                 ` <20030714230236.GA7195@kroah.com>
2003-07-15 20:24                                   ` Jan Rychter
2003-07-13  5:22                             ` networking bugs and bugme.osdl.org David S. Miller
2003-07-13  5:42                               ` Jan Rychter
2003-06-27 22:02           ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 21:31             ` Ben Collins
2003-06-27 23:25               ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-27 22:30                 ` Ben Collins
2003-06-28  0:32                   ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28 19:26                     ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:38                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  1:14                   ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-28  2:13                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  2:35                       ` Andrew Morton
2003-06-28  6:08                         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-28  3:27                       ` Jamal Hadi
2003-06-27 22:02             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:11               ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-27 22:13                 ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 18:50     ` Ben Greear
2003-06-27 21:44       ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 22:47         ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-06-27 22:53           ` Larry McVoy
2003-06-28  0:44             ` David S. Miller
2003-06-28  0:09           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-27 23:04         ` Alan Cox
2003-06-28  0:19           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 21:15           ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 21:45             ` Andries Brouwer
2003-06-29 21:51               ` David S. Miller
2003-06-29 22:49                 ` Andries Brouwer
2003-06-29 23:21                   ` Davide Libenzi
2003-06-29 22:07             ` Alan Cox
2003-06-29 22:13               ` David S. Miller
2003-06-30  2:35                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-07-20 16:46                   ` Petr Baudis
2003-06-27 15:25 John Bradford
2003-06-27 16:18 Nicolas Mailhot
2003-06-28  8:00 John Bradford
2003-06-28  8:10 John Bradford
2003-06-28 22:37 John Bradford
2003-06-29 22:28 John Bradford

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