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From: Alex Williamson <alex_williamson@hp.com>
To: Grant Grundler <grundler@parisc-linux.org>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	ak@suse.de, davem@redhat.com, suparna@in.ibm.com,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn_helgaas@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] block layer support for DMA IOMMU bypass mode
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 13:59:26 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F01E81E.813FCDAC@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20030701191941.GF14683@dsl2.external.hp.com

Grant Grundler wrote:
> 
> But I'm pretty sure james proposal will work for ia64 and parisc.
> 

   The thing that's got me concerned about this is that it allows
for sg lists that contains both entries that the block layer
expects will be mapped into the iommu and ones that it expects
to bypass.  I don't like the implications of parsing through
sg lists looking for bypass-able and non-bypass-able groupings.
This seems like a lot more overhead than we have now and the
complexity of merging partially bypass-able scatterlists seems
time consuming.

   The current ia64 sba_iommu does a quick and dirty sg bypass
check.  If the device can dma to any memory address, the entire
sg list is bypassed.  If not, the entire list is coalesced and
mapped by the iommu.  The idea being that true performance
devices will have 64bit dma masks and be able to quickly bypass.
Everything else will at least get the benefit of coalescing
entries to make more efficient dma.  The coalescing is a bit
simpler since it's the entire list as well.  With this proposal,
we'd have to add a lot of complexity to partially bypass sg
lists.  I don't necessarily see that as a benefit.  Thanks,

	Alex

-- 
Alex Williamson                             HP Linux & Open Source Lab

  reply	other threads:[~2003-07-01 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-01 16:46 [RFC] block layer support for DMA IOMMU bypass mode James Bottomley
2003-07-01 17:09 ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-01 17:28   ` James Bottomley
2003-07-01 17:42     ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-01 19:22       ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-01 19:56       ` James Bottomley
2003-07-01 17:54     ` H. Peter Anvin
2003-07-01 19:19 ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-01 19:59   ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2003-07-01 20:11     ` James Bottomley
2003-07-01 20:03   ` James Bottomley
2003-07-01 23:01     ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-02 15:52       ` James Bottomley
2003-07-01 22:51 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-01 23:57 ` [RFC] block layer support for DMA IOMMU bypass mode II Andi Kleen
2003-07-02  0:03   ` David S. Miller
2003-07-02  0:22     ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-02  0:21       ` David S. Miller
2003-07-02 16:53       ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-02 17:19         ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-02 16:55   ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-02 17:20     ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-02 17:37       ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-02 21:16     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-02 23:56       ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-03 20:26         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-03 21:24           ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-03 22:19             ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-08  2:14             ` David S. Miller
2003-07-08 19:34               ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-08 19:47                 ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-08 20:10                   ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-08 20:11                   ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-08 22:04                 ` David S. Miller
2003-07-08 22:25                   ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-08 22:23                     ` David S. Miller
2003-07-09 18:55                       ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-23 11:40                       ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-28 11:15                         ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-28 14:59                           ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-30  2:31                           ` Grant Grundler
2003-08-01 21:51                             ` Cliff White
2003-08-01 23:18                               ` reaim now available as osdl-aim-7 - " Cliff White
2003-07-30  4:42                           ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-30  4:51                             ` David S. Miller
2003-07-30 13:06                               ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-30 16:02                               ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-30 16:36                                 ` Andi Kleen
2003-07-30 17:18                                   ` James Bottomley
2003-07-30 14:20                             ` James Bottomley
2003-07-23 13:20                       ` Grant Grundler
2003-07-23 15:30                         ` Jens Axboe

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