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From: Scott Robert Ladd <coyote@coyotegulch.com>
To: "Trever L. Adams" <tadams-lists@myrealbox.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bitkeeper
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:29:04 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F1874B0.6030507@coyotegulch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1058558982.2479.28.camel@aurora.localdomain>

Trever L. Adams wrote
> Stallman, believe it or not, you used to be someone I looked up to a
> great deal.  I still think some of your ideas are great and I would love
> to see the entire world as open source.  However, to encourage people to
> do things that are known to antagonize others is crazy.  CVS is crap.  I
> haven't used Bitkeeper but I have tried a lot of others, and they are
> junk.  So, if Bitkeeper is as good as Linus et al think it is, then it
> would be insane to do anything to ruin the relationship they have with
> Bitkeeper.  Ideology is great, but it does have to be tempered and meted
> out so that it can be implemented in a way that brings the most good to
> everyone.  At this point, ticking off McVoy will likely do the opposite.
> 
> McVoy, thank you for helping Linus, Cox, Miller et al scale better.  As
> I have said before, I hope there is some way your software can become
> more open, but I will leave that up to you and your team to figure out
> when and how.

You are being far too rational for this discussion.

While I may have my disagreements with Larry at times, I appreciate his 
patience in granting BitKeeper to the kernel developers.

RMS is a political idealist -- a good thing, in that such people help 
bring about shifts in society. But like all idealists, he's become 
trapped his dogma, fixated on finding battles to fight, even in other 
people's realms.

-- 
Scott Robert Ladd
Coyote Gulch Productions (http://www.coyotegulch.com)
Software Invention for High-Performance Computing


  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-18 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-18 19:51 Bitkeeper Richard Stallman
2003-07-18 20:06 ` Bitkeeper Rik van Riel
2003-07-18 20:22   ` Bitkeeper nick
2003-07-18 20:40     ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:28     ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-19 23:45       ` Bitkeeper Pavel Machek
2003-07-20  0:23         ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-18 20:32   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 20:44     ` Bitkeeper Rik van Riel
2003-07-19 18:42     ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-19 18:49       ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 18:57         ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-19 19:05           ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 20:02             ` Bitkeeper Jan-Benedict Glaw
2003-07-18 20:09 ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 20:44   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:03   ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-18 21:58     ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 22:17   ` Bitkeeper Mike Fedyk
2003-07-18 22:39     ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-19  8:20       ` Bitkeeper Eric W. Biederman
2003-07-19 15:34         ` Bitkeeper Mark Mielke
2003-07-18 22:29   ` Scott Robert Ladd [this message]
2003-07-18 20:30 ` Bitkeeper Michael Buesch
2003-07-18 20:36   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 20:44 ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-18 21:03   ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:08   ` Bitkeeper David Schwartz
2003-07-18 21:28     ` Bitkeeper Shawn
2003-07-18 21:23   ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-18 21:50     ` Bitkeeper David Lang
2003-07-18 21:54     ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-18 22:16       ` Bitkeeper Alan Cox
2003-07-18 22:01     ` Bitkeeper Trever L. Adams
2003-07-18 22:27     ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19  9:45       ` Bitkeeper Marcus Metzler
2003-07-19 20:42       ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-19 21:57         ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 22:28           ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-19 22:39             ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-19 23:45               ` Bitkeeper Adrian Bunk
2003-07-20  0:02                 ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-20  0:10                   ` Bitkeeper Tupshin Harper
2003-07-20  0:26                     ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-20  1:11                       ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  0:23                   ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  0:28                   ` Bitkeeper jiho
2003-07-20  0:30                   ` Bitkeeper Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-07-20  0:50                     ` Bitkeeper Larry McVoy
2003-07-20  0:22                 ` Bitkeeper Jeff Garzik
     [not found]               ` <3F19DA04.80809@c-zone.net>
     [not found]                 ` <20030719235526.GA31428@work.bitmover.com>
2003-07-20  0:21                   ` Bitkeeper jiho
2003-07-19 23:57       ` Bitkeeper Pavel Machek
2003-07-18 21:06 ` Bitkeeper Jörn Engel
2003-07-18 22:00   ` Bitkeeper Svein Ove Aas
2003-07-18 22:25     ` BK is not heaven, sure [Was: Re: Bitkeeper] J.A. Magallon
2003-07-18 23:50 ` Bitkeeper James Simmons
2003-07-19  1:05   ` offtopic crap (was Re: Bitkeeper) David S. Miller
2003-07-19 15:00     ` Jeff Garzik
2003-07-20  2:50 ` Bitkeeper Zack Brown
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-07-19 16:00 Bitkeeper John Bradford
2003-07-19 16:17 ` Bitkeeper Mark Mielke
2003-07-19 10:33 Bitkeeper John Bradford
2003-02-15  8:21 BitKeeper John Bradford
2003-02-15 22:26 ` BitKeeper Pavel Machek
2003-02-16 11:40   ` BitKeeper John Bradford

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