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From: Bas Mevissen <ml@basmevissen.nl>
To: John Bradford <john@grabjohn.com>
Cc: diegocg@teleline.es, rpjday@mindspring.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: time for some drivers to be removed?
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 12:48:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F210AF5.5000909@basmevissen.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307241829.h6OITjR3000582@81-2-122-30.bradfords.org.uk>

John Bradford wrote:
> A CONFIG_KNOWN_BROKEN option is a good thing, in the case where,
> E.G. a SCSI driver is broken, and will randomly corrupt data, but
> otherwise compiles and appears to work.  

I agree on that.

Maybe I should make my point more clear. What bothers me is that a lot 
of (early 2.4) kernel versions could easely be configured non-compiling. 
Not just for exotic configurations, but also when building for an 
average PC.

That is very confusing (and anoying) for all kernel builders, as you can 
not always easely tell if the kernel doesn't compile because of 
misconfiguration or because of code errors.

I hope that this can be avoided for 2.6.0. "Fixing" device drivers by 
calling them obsolete, is not the right way. Because drivers that are 
broken and fixed by nobody might not be obsolete.

So for 2.6.0, I propose to only mark obsolete what is really obsolete. 
Maybe everything that is broken since 2.2 and nobody complained about 
it. Then, mark broken what is broken for some time and nobody is 
(currenly) willing/able to fix.

Bas.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-07-25 10:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-24 18:29 time for some drivers to be removed? John Bradford
2003-07-24 18:31 ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 19:31   ` Eli Carter
2003-07-25 10:48 ` Bas Mevissen [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-08-14  5:34 John Bradford
2003-08-13 20:55 John Bradford
2003-08-13 20:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-13 20:55 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-05 12:42 Mikael Pettersson
2003-08-05 13:03 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-05 13:35   ` Mikael Pettersson
2003-08-05 13:48     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-05 14:01       ` Mikael Pettersson
2003-08-06 10:06         ` Claus-Justus Heine
2003-08-09 19:40           ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-05 16:35 ` Alan Cox
2003-08-05 18:47   ` Leopold Gouverneur
2003-07-28  7:12 linux
2003-07-27 16:22 John Bradford
2003-07-25 11:10 John Bradford
2003-07-24 14:43 John Bradford
2003-07-24 19:24 ` Brian Jackson
2003-07-24 12:20 Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 14:58 ` Alan Cox
2003-07-24 15:34   ` Bas Mevissen
2003-07-24 17:32     ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-24 17:50       ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 19:16         ` Diego Calleja García
2003-07-24 19:43           ` Robert P. J. Day
2003-07-24 18:02       ` Samuel Flory
2003-07-24 19:07     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-25 10:48       ` Bas Mevissen
2003-07-27 15:31 ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 15:59   ` David D. Hagood
2003-07-27 16:18     ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 16:40     ` Alan Cox
2003-07-27 17:00       ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 18:45       ` David D. Hagood
2003-07-27 20:40         ` Alan Cox
2003-07-27 20:56           ` Adrian Bunk
2003-07-27 20:56             ` Alan Cox
2003-07-28  2:23               ` Herbert Pötzl
2003-07-29 19:33               ` Adrian Bunk
2003-08-13 20:16                 ` Bill Davidsen
2003-08-09 18:04   ` David Woodhouse
2003-08-09 19:36     ` Adrian Bunk

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