From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S270749AbTG0Lld (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:41:33 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S270750AbTG0Lld (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:41:33 -0400 Received: from jive.SoftHome.net ([66.54.152.27]:39876 "HELO jive.SoftHome.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S270749AbTG0Llc (ORCPT ); Sun, 27 Jul 2003 07:41:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3F23BE18.5000600@softhome.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 13:57:12 +0200 From: "Ihar \"Philips\" Filipau" Organization: Home Sweet Home User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030701 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Fedyk CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: OT: Vanilla not for embedded?! Re: Kernel 2.6 size increase - get_current()? References: <3F214EC3.9010804@softhome.net> <20030725204613.GB1686@matchmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20030725204613.GB1686@matchmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Mike Fedyk wrote: > > Vanilla will be what people put into it. And I have seen more messages from > embedded people complaining, than actually doing and submitting patches for > merging. > > So the embedded trees are a deep fork huh? Did you or anyone else do > anything to merge during 2.5?! > > And now you see why there is a "deep" fork... > Real-time stuff is a must - something like RTAI. Things like Linux Trace Toolkit - soone or later you have to start using them to tune performace. Patches to remove mandatory (for 2.2/2.0) PCI/IDE support were pretty common too. Patch to shrink network hashes - norm of life. Patch to kill PCI names database. And this is only things I was using personally (and I remember about) in my short 4 years carrier. CONFIG_TINY - http://lwn.net/Articles/14186/ - got something like this merged? - so I'm the first guy in the download queue on ftp.kernel.org! Kernel heavily tuned for servers and workstations (read - modern PCs). At my previous position company was using kernel prepared by Karim Yaghmour and right now we using kernels from MontaVista. Far from vanillas. > embedded people complaining Sure complaining. For some reasons all "improvements" to kernel had lead to increase of kernel size, not decrease. Strange, isn't it?