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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	gaxt <gaxt@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: Scheduler activations (IIRC) question
Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:05:34 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F3F293E.7010303@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030817065501.GA1105@mail.jlokier.co.uk>



Jamie Lokier wrote:

>Mike Galbraith wrote:
>
>>>The point of the mechanism is to submit system calls in an
>>>asynchronous fashion, after all.  A proper task scheduling is
>>>inappropriate when all we'd like to do is initiate the syscall and
>>>continue processing, just as if it were an async I/O request.
>>>
>>Ok, so you'd want a class where you could register an "exception handler" 
>>prior to submitting a system call, and any subsequent schedule would be 
>>treated as an exception?  (they'd have to be nestable exceptions too 
>>right?... <imagines stack explosions> egad:)
>>
>
>Well, apart from not resembling exceptions, and no they don't nest :)
>

Is it clear that this is a win over having a regular thread to
perform the system call for you? Its obviously a lot more complicated.

I _think_ what you describe is almost exactly what KSE or scheduler
activations in FreeBSD 5 does. I haven't yet seen a test where they
significantly beat regular threads. Although I'm not sure if FreeBSD
uses them for asynchronous syscalls, or just user-space thread
scheduling.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-17  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-15 15:49 [PATCH] O16int for interactivity Con Kolivas
2003-08-15 18:26 ` Timothy Miller
2003-08-15 18:45   ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-08-16  2:31   ` Con Kolivas
2003-08-18 15:46     ` Timothy Miller
2003-08-18 15:43       ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-18 19:48         ` Timothy Miller
2003-08-18 22:46           ` Nick Piggin
2003-08-15 19:00 ` Felipe Alfaro Solana
2003-08-16  2:14   ` [PATCH]O16.1int was " Con Kolivas
2003-08-15 21:01 ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-15 23:03 ` Scheduler activations (IIRC) question Jamie Lokier
2003-08-15 23:54   ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-16  0:54     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16  6:14       ` Mike Galbraith
2003-08-16 14:18         ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17  5:51           ` Mike Galbraith
2003-08-17  6:55             ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17  7:05               ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-08-17  8:34               ` Mike Galbraith
2003-08-17 17:12                 ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17 17:15                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-08-17 18:26                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17 18:27                   ` Mike Galbraith
2003-08-17 18:29                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-17 18:46                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16 20:54         ` Ingo Oeser
2003-08-16 21:39           ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]             ` <20030817144203.J670@nightmaster.csn.tu-chemnitz.de>
2003-08-17 20:02               ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-18  0:23                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-08-18 10:38                 ` Ingo Oeser
2003-08-18 13:09                   ` Jamie Lokier
2003-08-16  7:01 ` [PATCH] O16int for interactivity Con Kolivas
2003-08-18 10:08 ` Apurva Mehta
2003-08-18 10:30   ` Con Kolivas
2003-08-18 12:13     ` Apurva Mehta

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