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From: Ed Sweetman <ed.sweetman@wmich.edu>
To: Alex Tomas <bzzz@tmi.comex.ru>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ext2-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [RFC] extents support for EXT3
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:49:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F4F923F.9070207@wmich.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3isogpgna.fsf@bzzz.home.net>

Alex Tomas wrote:
>>>>>>Ed Sweetman (ES) writes:
> 
> 
>  ES> I was testing this with only a single partition mounted with extents
>  ES> enabled when benchmarking.  Ext3 gave no messages of being mounted
>  ES> afterbootup with or without extents so to make sure i had extents
>  ES> enabled i booted with all my partitions with the extents option.  I
>  ES> suspect then my problems began.  I'm completely unaware of the extent
>  ES> of the damage enabling extents has done since most of the important
>  ES> things were opened, not created during my extents use.  In any case it
>  ES> may be that the reason why init is not able to be found is because i
>  ES> used apt and upgraded my system ...and I dont remember if i had
>  ES> extents enabled at the time or not.  If my init is in extents format
>  ES> though, then why is a patched kernel able to read it with extents not
>  ES> being enabled via the omunt option where as kernels without the patch
>  ES> cannot.  Is extents able to be read from a fs even when it's not
>  ES> mounted with the option but not written?   I'm kinda confused, this
>  ES> aspect of extents wasn't in the original email.
> 
> well, on my testbox I use _patched with extents_ ext3 as / and /boot partitions.
> I haven't seen any problems on them. with patch, ext3 look at special EXTENTS
> flag in inode (this flag is set up only for newly created files on fs being
> mounted with extents enabled) and calls apropriate routines. thus, it will
> call extents routines for those file even if fs is being mounted with extents
> disabled. I really do believe that your root filesystem haven't been mounted
> with extents enabled, so init must be stored in good old format.

Ok well little wait on the non-patched bootup.

I booted with test4-mm2 patched



Throughput 221.812 MB/sec 16 procs    ext2
Throughput 159.495 MB/sec 16 procs    ext3-extents (definitely enabled)
Throughput 147.598 MB/sec 16 procs    ext3 (patched but disabled)

There is an obvious improvement, but nothing near the 70+% increase you 
saw.  Subsequent runs run anything from a little lower than above for 
extents to 167MB/s.

I'm using the largest inode size possible for ext3 for the filesystem 
tested.


By the way, what's the behavior of opening an existing non-extent file 
and writing and reading to it while the partition is mounted with 
extents enabled?




>  ES> i'm going to try and boot a kernel without the extents patch (so far
>  ES> hasn't been possible) and run dbench again and see if i get different
>  ES> numbers.  I'm almost suspecting extents being enabled no matter what i
>  ES> mount the fs's as.
> 
> that would be fine!
> 
> 



  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-29 17:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-28  8:22 [RFC] extents support for EXT3 Alex Tomas
2003-08-28 17:22 ` [Ext2-devel] " Mike Fedyk
2003-08-29  5:55   ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-28 18:12 ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29  5:59   ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-29 15:28     ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29 15:38       ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-29 15:52         ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29 16:10           ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-29 16:16             ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-29 16:20             ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29 16:34               ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-29 17:49                 ` Ed Sweetman [this message]
2003-08-29 18:09                   ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-29 19:55                     ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29 21:39                       ` [Ext2-devel] " Mike Fedyk
2003-08-29 22:25                         ` Ed Sweetman
2003-08-29 23:17                           ` Mike Fedyk
2003-08-31 20:25                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-08-31 20:37                               ` Alex Tomas
2003-09-05 10:06                               ` Pavel Machek
2003-09-05 14:55                                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-08-30  9:09                       ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-30  8:55                   ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-30 10:13                   ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-28 22:00 ` Ramón Rey Vicente󮠒
2003-08-29  6:04   ` Alex Tomas
2003-08-29  9:55     ` Ramón Rey Vicente󮠒
2003-09-06  0:19 ` jw schultz
2003-09-06  6:09   ` Alex Tomas

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