From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Andreas Steinmetz <ast@domdv.de>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
Joerg Schilling <schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Kernel includefile bug not fixed after a year :-(
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:25:42 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3F797646.1070303@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F797316.2010401@domdv.de>
Andreas Steinmetz wrote:
> Jens Axboe wrote:
>
>>
>> I think I do.
>>
>>
>>> In order to use kernel interfaces you _need_ to include kernel include
>>> files.
>>
>>
>>
>> False. You need to include the glibc kernel headers.
>>
> Then please tell me why PPPIOCNEWUNIT is only defined in
> linux/if_ppp.h and not net/if_ppp.h which is still true for
> glibc-2.3.2. And please don't tell me to ask the glibc folks. There
> are inconsistencies between kernel headers and userland headers which
> force the inclusion of kernel headers in userland applications.
>
A problem was raised and Jens answered it. The simple fact is that right
now linux kernel include files are often not suitable to include in user
space.
You are free to do what you like. You can just stick a ifndef / define
at the top of your program to fix it up nicely, or wait for glibc to
include it, or try to include you kernel headers. Please don't be
hostile toward people who are answering questions.
FWIW I think some people are looking at this for 2.7
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-09-30 12:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-09-30 11:44 Kernel includefile bug not fixed after a year :-( Joerg Schilling
2003-09-30 11:54 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 12:12 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2003-09-30 12:21 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 12:26 ` Andreas Steinmetz
2003-09-30 12:30 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 12:32 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-30 12:40 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 12:39 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-30 12:23 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-30 12:28 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 12:34 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-30 12:42 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 19:09 ` Erik Andersen
2003-10-01 8:48 ` Paul Rolland
2003-10-01 8:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-10-01 17:49 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-30 16:10 ` Sam Ravnborg
2003-10-01 6:39 ` David S. Miller
2003-10-02 6:42 ` Eric W. Biederman
2003-09-30 19:04 ` Erik Andersen
2003-09-30 12:25 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-09-30 19:00 ` Erik Andersen
2003-10-01 8:47 ` Paul Rolland
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-01 1:05 Albert Cahalan
2003-09-30 13:26 Joerg Schilling
2003-09-30 12:52 Joerg Schilling
2003-09-30 12:37 Joerg Schilling
2003-09-30 13:21 ` Tomas Szepe
2003-09-30 11:57 Joerg Schilling
2003-09-30 12:06 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 12:28 ` David S. Miller
2003-09-30 12:38 ` Jens Axboe
2003-09-30 14:41 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2003-10-10 6:36 ` Sandy Harris
2003-09-30 10:28 Joerg Schilling
2003-09-30 11:05 ` Jens Axboe
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