From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S264507AbTLEWmG (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:42:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S264528AbTLEWmG (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:42:06 -0500 Received: from mail.netzentry.com ([157.22.10.66]:57351 "EHLO netzentry.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S264507AbTLEWl7 (ORCPT ); Fri, 5 Dec 2003 17:41:59 -0500 Message-ID: <3FD109B6.8080503@netzentry.com> Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:41:58 -0800 From: "b@netzentry.com" Reply-To: b@netzentry.com Organization: b@netzentry.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mfedyk@matchmail.com CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: RE: Catching NForce2 lockup with NMI watchdog Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >Everyone with this problem should turn on the nmi_watchdog, as >someone may >have the right circumstances to produce an oops where the >others didn't. > >I say that you're not serious about getting this fixed unless >you're going >to do all of: To quote Allen Martin: >NVIDIA doesn't provide a windows driver to setup APIC interrupts. > >APIC functionality is exported through the ACPI methods and MP >table in the system BIOS which the motherboard vendors supply. >Likely the root of the problem has to do with the way the Linux >kernel is using the ACPI methods to setup the interrupts which >is different from win 9x/2k/XP. I can help track this down, >unfortunately so far I've been unable to reproduce the hangs >on any of the boards I have. and >> Do you know whether the nforce2's with apic support the timer >> (IRQ 0) in >> IO-APIC mode? To me, it seems like a bug: >> "Dec 4 20:13:11 tesore kernel: ..MP-BIOS bug: 8254 timer not >> connected to >> IO-APIC" >> (This message originates in arch/i386/kernel/io_apic.c) >> > >Yes, Win 9x/2k/XP use the system timer on irq0 and have no problem. I >haven't looked at this yet. > Is it not possible that Linux could be made to handling this hardware correctly? > > o turn on nmi_watchdog > o try the patches posted[1] > o contact nvidia or your motherboard manufacturer saying you >need linux > support, and return the board if they don't. (phone, fax, >email, or even > local office if there is one) > >I bought a VIA board to avoid the problems I expected from the >nforce, and I >needed a system (server) that would *work* now. > >[1] If you're worried about your file system, just boot the >patched kernel in >single mode, and that will mount all of your file systems >read-only so there >will be little chance of corruption. > >Mike