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From: Nick Piggin <piggin@cyberone.com.au>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 20:40:51 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3FDC3023.9030708@cyberone.com.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031214043245.GC21241@mail.shareable.org>



Jamie Lokier wrote:

>Nick Piggin wrote:
>
>>>Shared runqueues sound like a simplification to describe execution units
>>>which have shared resourses and null cost of changing units. You can do
>>>that by having a domain which behaved like that, but a shared runqueue
>>>sounds better because it would eliminate the cost of even considering
>>>moving a process from one sibling to another.
>>>
>>You are correct, however it would be a miniscule cost advantage,
>>possibly outweighed by the shared lock, and overhead of more
>>changing of CPUs (I'm sure there would be some cost).
>>
>
>Regarding the overhead of the shared runqueue lock:
>
>Is the "lock" prefix actually required for locking between x86
>siblings which share the same L1 cache?
>

That lock is still taken by other CPUs as well for eg. wakeups, balancing,
and so forth. I guess it could be a very specific optimisation for
spinlocks in general if there was only one HT core. Don't know if it
would be worthwhile though.



  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-14  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-08  4:25 [PATCH][RFC] make cpu_sibling_map a cpumask_t Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 15:59 ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-08 23:08   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-09  0:14     ` Anton Blanchard
2003-12-11  4:25       ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  7:24         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11  8:57           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:52             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:09               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:23                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 13:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 13:32                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:30                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:38                         ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 15:51                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 15:56                             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:37                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:40                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-12  1:52                         ` [PATCH] improve rwsem scalability (was Re: [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler) Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  2:02                           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  9:41                           ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-13  0:07                             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  0:44                               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-17  5:27                                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19 11:52                                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19 15:06                                     ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-20  0:08                                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  0:58             ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Rusty Russell
2003-12-11 10:01           ` Rhino
2003-12-11  8:14             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 16:49               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:16                 ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 11:40             ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 17:05               ` Rhino
2003-12-11 15:17                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-11 16:28         ` Kevin P. Fleming
2003-12-11 16:41           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  2:24         ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-12  7:00           ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12  7:23             ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-13  6:43               ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  1:35                 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-14  2:18                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-14  4:32                     ` Jamie Lokier
2003-12-14  9:40                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2003-12-14 10:46                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2003-12-16 17:46                         ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-16 18:22                       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:24                         ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-17  0:41                           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-17  0:54                             ` Davide Libenzi
2003-12-16 17:34                     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15  5:53                 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-15 23:08                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  4:57                     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-19  5:13                       ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-20  2:43                       ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-21  2:56                         ` Nick Piggin
2004-01-03 18:57                   ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-15 20:21                 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-15 23:20                   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-16  0:11                     ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-12  8:59             ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-12 15:14               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-08 19:44 ` [PATCH][RFC] make cpu_sibling_map a cpumask_t James Cleverdon
2003-12-08 20:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-08 20:51 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-12-08 20:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-08 23:17     ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 23:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2003-12-08 23:58         ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-08 23:46 ` Rusty Russell
2003-12-09 13:36   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-11 21:41     ` bill davidsen
     [not found] <20031213022038.300B22C2C1@lists.samba.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found] ` <3FDAB517.4000309@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]   ` <brgeo7$huv$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]     ` <3FDBC876.3020603@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]       ` <20031214043245.GC21241@mail.shareable.org.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]         ` <3FDC3023.9030708@cyberone.com.au.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
     [not found]           ` <1071398761.5233.1.camel@laptop.fenrus.com.suse.lists.linux.kernel>
2003-12-14 16:26             ` [CFT][RFC] HT scheduler Andi Kleen
2003-12-14 16:54               ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found] <200312161127.13691.habanero@us.ibm.com>
2003-12-16 17:37 ` Andrew Theurer
2003-12-17  2:41   ` Nick Piggin
2003-12-16 19:03 Nakajima, Jun
2003-12-17  0:38 Nakajima, Jun

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