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From: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Latypov <dlatypov@google.com>, Rae Moar <rmoar@google.com>
Cc: davidgow@google.com, skhan@linuxfoundation.org,
	keescook@chromium.org, Tim.Bird@sony.com,
	brendanhiggins@google.com, corbet@lwn.net,
	guillaume.tucker@collabora.com, kernelci@lists.linux.dev,
	kunit-dev@googlegroups.com, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [KTAP V2 PATCH] ktap_v2: add recognized test name line
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2023 21:44:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3a4ed4a0-5694-ba59-a141-26e37576ff67@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGS_qxp2u3F4abmYgN+XwCG8CJN37NSqWSC===SWLCjZG8HYBw@mail.gmail.com>

On 3/20/23 14:21, Daniel Latypov wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 3:59 PM Rae Moar <rmoar@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> Add recognition of the test name line ("# Subtest: <name>") to the KTAP v2
>> spec.
>>
>> The purpose of this line is to declare the name of a test before its
>> results. This functionality is especially useful when trying to parse test
>> results incrementally and when interpretting results after a crash.
>>
>> This line is already compliant with KTAP v1 as it is interpretted as a
> 
> minor nit for if there's a v2, s/interprett/interpret (here and above)
> 
> Also, I want to elaborate on the previous paragraph a bit more, in
> case the motivation isn't clear.
> The problem with TAP and KTAP as-is is that the name of a test case is
> only known *after* it completes.
> 
> So the scenario being referred to is
> 
> KTAP version 1
> 1..1
> <lots of output>
> <kernel crash, no more output>
> 
> It would be nice if parsers could report "test FOO caused a crash" as
> opposed to "the first test case caused a crash, good luck figuring out
> which one that was"
> 
> Daniel

It would be useful to take some of the motivation explanation from TAP14,
which says (everything to the end of this email):

Commented Subtests are encouraged, as they provide the following benefits:

Easier for humans to read. For example:

  TAP version 14
              1..1
              ok 1 - hmm, what level is this?
vs:

  TAP version 14
  # Subtest: level 1
      # Subtest: level 2
          # Subtest: level 3
              1..1
              ok 1 - clearly level 3

Additional strictness around matching the Test Point description to Subtest Name can catch errors and detect accidentally interleaved output.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-27  2:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-16 22:59 [KTAP V2 PATCH] ktap_v2: add recognized test name line Rae Moar
2023-03-20 19:21 ` Daniel Latypov
2023-03-27  2:44   ` Frank Rowand [this message]
2023-03-28 21:08   ` Rae Moar
2023-03-27  2:41 ` Frank Rowand
2023-03-29 18:34   ` Rae Moar
2023-03-31 20:00     ` Frank Rowand

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