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From: "Michael Smith" <msmith@xiph.org>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: "Andy Wingo" <wingo@fluendo.com>
Subject: gettimeofday() jumping into the future
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:08:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3c1737210708230408i7a8049a9m5db49e6c4d89ab62@mail.gmail.com> (raw)

Hi,

We've been seeing some strange behaviour on some of our applications
recently. I've tracked this down to gettimeofday() returning spurious
values occasionally.

Specifically, gettimeofday() will suddenly, for a single call, return
a value about 4398 seconds (~1 hour 13 minutes) in the future. The
following call goes back to a normal value.

This seems to be occurring when the clock source goes slightly
backwards for a single call. In
kernel/time/timekeeping.c:__get_nsec_offset(), we have this:
 cycle_delta = (cycle_now - clock->cycle_last) & clock->mask;

So a small decrease in time here will (this is all unsigned
arithmetic) give us a very large cycle_delta. cyc2ns() then multiplies
this by some value, then right shifts by 22. The resulting value (in
nanoseconds) is approximately 4398 seconds; this gets added on to the
xtime value, giving us our jump into the future. The next call to
gettimeofday() returns to normal as we don't have this huge nanosecond
offset.

This system is a 2-socket core 2 quad machine (8 cpus), running 32 bit
mode. It's a dell poweredge 1950. The kernel selects the TSC as the
clock source, having determined that the tsc runs synchronously on
this system. Switching the systems to use a different time source
seems to make the problem go away (which is fine for us, but we'd like
to get this fixed properly upstream).

We've also seen this behaviour with a synthetic test program (which
just runs 4 threads all calling gettimeofday() in a loop as fast as
possible and testing that it doesn't jump) on an older machine, a dell
poweredge SC1425 with two p4 hyperthreaded xeons.

Can anyone advise on what's going wrong here? I can't find much in the
way of documentation on whether the TSC is guaranteed to be
monotonically increasing on intel systems. Should the code choose not
to use the TSC? Or should the TSC reading code ensure that the
returned values are monotonic?

Is there any more information that would be useful? I'll be on a plane
for most of tomorrow, so might be a little slow responding.

Thanks,

Mike

             reply	other threads:[~2007-08-23 11:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-23 11:08 Michael Smith [this message]
2007-08-23 11:36 ` gettimeofday() jumping into the future Gerald Britton
2007-08-23 13:03   ` Avi Kivity
2007-08-23 20:09     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-23 20:07   ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-08-23 11:47 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-08-23 12:20   ` Michael Smith
2007-08-23 18:47     ` john stultz
2007-08-25 16:44       ` Michael Smith
2008-03-30 21:17 ` Tim Ricketts
2008-03-31  7:18   ` Andi Kleen
2008-04-03 11:47     ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:22       ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-03 12:44         ` James Courtier-Dutton
2008-04-11 23:11           ` john stultz
2008-03-31  8:55   ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-03-31 16:03     ` John Stultz
2008-04-02 11:22       ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02 23:57         ` Karsten Wiese
2008-04-03  6:28           ` Thomas Gleixner
2008-04-02  4:26   ` Mihai Donțu
2008-04-02  4:27     ` Mihai Donțu
     [not found] <47F3F313.7030803@vmware.com>
2008-04-02 22:40 ` Tim Mann

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