From: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>
To: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
<srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>, <mathias.nyman@intel.com>,
<perex@perex.cz>, <broonie@kernel.org>, <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
<krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>, <agross@kernel.org>,
<Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com>, <bgoswami@quicinc.com>,
<andersson@kernel.org>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <tiwai@suse.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org>,
<alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>, <quic_jackp@quicinc.com>,
<quic_plai@quicinc.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/28] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 12:42:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3d332f71-cccd-651a-88b1-9e33a81592e5@quicinc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6b811766-cd2a-54c0-d090-640812686a45@linux.intel.com>
Hi Pierre,
On 3/15/2023 7:30 AM, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> Hi Wesley,
>
>> Sorry made a mistake on the diagram. There is no connection from
>> SOC-USB to the APR/GLINK. The Q6USB driver will be the one that is
>> going to configure some of the Q6AFE ports along withe the Q6AFE DAI
>> driver.
>>
>> | ASoC
>> ----------------------------------
>> | _________________________
>> | |sm8250 platform card |
>> | |_________________________|
>> | | |
>> | ___V____ ____V____
>> | |Q6USB | |Q6AFE | #5
>> | |"codec" | |"cpu" |
>> | |________| |_________|
>> | ^ ^ ^
>> | #6 | |________|
>> | ___V____ |
>> | |SOC-USB | |
>> #7 | | |
>> ----->|________| |
>> --- |
>> | | |
>> | | _____________V________
>> | | |APR/GLINK |
>> | | |______________________|
>> | | ^
>> | | #8 |
>> | | ___________V___________
>> | |->|audio DSP |
>> | |_______________________|
>> |
>> |
>>
>>>>
>
> Makes sense now, thank you for the clarification.
>
> I'll have to dig more in this 'soc-usb' block, it's clearly a key
> component that will have to maintain a consistent state across two
> different parts of the stack and deal with probe/remove/shutdown.
>
>>> My initial thought was to add a 'DSP offload' PCM to the USB card, you
>>> added a "USB offload" PCM to the DSP card. Nice logical swap!
>>>
>>> Your proposal might be easier in practice since there's typically a
>>> vendor-specific configuration file (UCM or custom) file for the DSP,
>>> where USB information can be added.
>>>
>>> It's more problematic to change a generic USB card as we know it today
>>> and bolt vendor-specific DSP information on top.
>>>
>>> The only open I have with your option is that there are still two
>>> control paths to e.g. set the volume. It would be so much easier for
>>> userspace if there was a single volume control no matter what path is
>>> used for data, or make sure the kcontrols are 'mirrored' somehow. If we
>>> found a way to address this issue that would be ideal.
>>>
>>
>> Got it. Let me look to see if that is something we can address/add. I
>> think the current implementation is that USB SND will expose some mixer
>> controls based on the UAC descriptor parsing. Then when they want to
>> change the volume (for example) it will result in a USB SETUP transaction.
>>
>> So USB SND will eventually be the entity controlling these changes.
>
> That's probably ok then, am I getting this right that the the DSP card
> would not expose any USB-related kcontrols then, i.e. the ONLY path to
> change volumes, etc., would through the regular USB card kcontrols?
>
> That would limit the changes in the platform sound card to the addition
> of a PCM USB device.
Yes, that's correct. There won't be any exposed USB volume controls
from the DSP card.
Thanks
Wesley Cheng
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-15 19:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-08 23:57 [PATCH v3 00/28] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 01/28] xhci: Add support to allocate several interrupters Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 10:34 ` Oliver Neukum
2023-03-09 10:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-03-10 15:07 ` Mathias Nyman
2023-03-13 20:08 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-04-25 1:17 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-13 20:32 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-06-23 22:37 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-06-26 13:55 ` Mathias Nyman
2023-06-26 15:05 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 02/28] usb: xhci: Add XHCI APIs to support USB offloading Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 6:38 ` Greg KH
2023-03-09 19:51 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-10 12:17 ` Claudiu.Beznea
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 03/28] usb: host: xhci-mem: Cleanup pending secondary event ring events Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 04/28] ASoC: Add SOC USB APIs for adding an USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 6:41 ` Greg KH
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 05/28] ASoC: dt-bindings: qcom,q6dsp-lpass-ports: Add USB_RX port Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 9:00 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 06/28] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Introduce USB AFE port to q6dsp Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 9:01 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 07/28] ASoC: qdsp6: q6afe: Increase APR timeout Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 08/28] ASoC: qcom: Add USB backend ASoC driver for Q6 Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 9:01 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-03-09 19:38 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-10 7:21 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-03-25 1:15 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-10 12:22 ` Claudiu.Beznea
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 09/28] sound: usb: card: Introduce USB SND platform op callbacks Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 6:44 ` Greg KH
2023-03-09 14:10 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-03-09 11:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 10/28] sound: usb: Export USB SND APIs for modules Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 6:29 ` Greg KH
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 11/28] dt-bindings: usb: dwc3: Add snps,num-hc-interrupters definition Wesley Cheng
2023-03-10 8:50 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-03-11 13:40 ` Rob Herring
2023-08-29 2:05 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-08-29 6:33 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-29 7:19 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-08-29 7:42 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-08-29 7:50 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 12/28] usb: dwc3: Add DT parameter to specify maximum number of interrupters Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 13/28] usb: host: xhci-plat: Set XHCI max interrupters if property is present Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 14/28] sound: usb: pcm: Export fixed rate check USB SND API Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 15/28] sound: usb: Introduce QC USB SND offloading support Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 8:29 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2023-03-09 17:54 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 16/28] sound: usb: card: Check for support for requested audio format Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 17/28] sound: soc: soc-usb: Add PCM format check API for USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 18/28] sound: soc: qcom: qusb6: Ensure PCM format is supported by USB audio device Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 19/28] sound: usb: Prevent starting of audio stream if in use Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 20/28] ASoC: dt-bindings: Add Q6USB backend bindings Wesley Cheng
2023-03-10 8:54 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-23 0:15 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 21/28] ASoC: dt-bindings: Update example for enabling USB offload on SM8250 Wesley Cheng
2023-03-10 8:56 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-06-23 0:51 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 22/28] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: q6afe: Split USB AFE dev_token param into separate API Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 9:01 ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-03-09 19:39 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 23/28] sound: Pass USB SND card and PCM information to SOC USB Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 24/28] sound: soc: qdsp6: Add SND kcontrol to select offload device Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 25/28] sound: soc: qdsp6: Add SND kcontrol for fetching offload status Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 26/28] sound: usb: qc_audio_offload: Use card and PCM index from QMI request Wesley Cheng
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 27/28] sound: usb: card: Allow for rediscovery of connected USB SND devices Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 11:32 ` Oliver Neukum
2023-03-08 23:57 ` [PATCH v3 28/28] sound: soc: soc-usb: Rediscover USB SND devices on USB port add Wesley Cheng
2023-03-09 6:46 ` [PATCH v3 00/28] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Greg KH
2023-03-09 17:13 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-03-09 21:10 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-10 0:37 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-03-13 23:43 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-14 0:42 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-03-14 1:42 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-14 2:22 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-03-15 0:08 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-03-15 14:30 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-03-15 16:29 ` Mark Brown
2023-03-15 19:42 ` Wesley Cheng [this message]
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